It is just harder

And expensive

Not in some states

Yes. Fed overrides State

And any blemishes on you they can deny it

Tell that to the legal weed

They can yes. But again. I don't care at the end of the day. Choose your hill to die on, Floki. Something you believe in, or natural causes.

False dv allegations are used to remove gun rights all the time.

You can ridicule me but it does not make me wrong. I have my principles.

dv allegations?

Domestic violence.

Domestic violence

ah

Also felens cant

True

what part of the world are you in, floki?

US

But i have lived in a couple countries.

And all over the US

#armylife

Disarming people is pointless anyway. Given enough time and money anything can be acquired by anyone with enough determination. The interesting point here is conflicting law. In some cases laws designed to conflict for an end goal or political tactic. I think we see a lot of that in the US.

Well the black market will always exist true. Hence why total bans are retarded. The punishment is rather stiff for felons and dv offenders found with firearms. In states that have such rules for felons. Its more of a "make it more difficult" than anything.

I think it is alright to establish certain channels to obtain firearms. This does not, in principle, obstruct you from getting a firearm. A ban is what I have a problem with.

You just have to be able, in theory, to get the guns.

I have reservations about the felons thing but then it is very obvious why you should not let them have a gun.

Yeah I dont think anyone would argue that some sort of rules on the market are appropriate. I mean if you're going to buy a howitzer you should at least have to prove you're old enough.

Yes

Or at least not batshit insane.

If you are sane enough to sign a contract you are sane e ough to buy a gun. If you are not sane enough to buy a gun, you really cannot be considered to be in full working order.

So probably shouldn't vote either

That's a fair argument. Though mental illness isn't always permeant. That's going to make it difficult to deal with. Also what's the limits on a "contract"? Crazy people can sign up for an internet plan. This is usually a type of contract.

What accounts for "sanity" varies. And yea sanity isnt really much of a limiter on contracts.

These are the only things that prevent competency for contracts:
One is considered mentally ill if the person suffers from:

Schizophrenia
Senility
Alzheimer's disease
Retardation
Chronic drug or alcohol dependency

And the last one is the hardest to prove. So is usually limited to under the influence. But i could easily see it being interpreted to all forms

Retardation is also a gradiant basis.

And being male if you listen to the APA....

^ basically.

Since these basis are based on APA definitions, ee also have that issue.

Well you don't usually permanently label someone unfit

You continue to evaluate

If you get discharge from the military for mental reasons you will get a permanent record of it in Norway that will block you to get a weapon in the future

The same happens in the states. It can also cost you a security clearance.