Doesn't that only apply to humans?

Im fairly certain we've traced the evolutionary paths of other species pretty clearly.

There are tons of missing links. Hell we are still discovering many species. And many species are changing.

There are no "missing links" because evolution doesn't just happen over night. It's a gradual change that takes a large amount of time.

we have evidence for both micro and macroevolution though, so these "missing" links are not holes in the theory

Hell 10 years ago veloceraptor was a scaled human size creature, 20 it was cold blooded.
Now its a warm blooded feathered creature

how is our expanding knowledge of fossils somehow a failure of the theory of evolution, though?

My point is unlike gravity, or motion, evolution and the species are constantly changing.

Yes, that's whole point of evolution.

evolution is not constantly changing

Jesus Christ

yes as well, but in layman's terms.

I never said it was a failure

the theory is pretty solid and described in detail in scientific literature

and by pretty solid I mean incredibly solid <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

Every time an organism is conceived, it can have a mutation. Enough of these build up and it leads to something different than before over many, many, many, many generations.

I said it was enough to prevent it from being a law like other scientific ideas, completely different from failure

no

literally just no

gravity breaks down on the quantum level, and is not described by the "law"

Gravity is a theory.

through and through

Newton's law of universal gravitation

it is a theory

the same way as evolution.

It is still classed as a theory

stop playing semantics games

Then if it breaks down at the quantum level, it too isnt omnesipent.

Its ok to not have all the answers. It doesnt discret it or mean its a failure

much smarter men than I have taken on this discussion before

I think yall are mistaking my point

I was trying to get to your point, by asking about the spiritualism stuff

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Tell me, what do you think evolution is.

because I've heard this from religious people before

not saying you're necessarily religious, that's just where I usually hear it

and I feel it is a misguided argument, born from not understanding how science really works at the fundamental level, or how our expanding knowledge might lead us closer to explaining some of the things that religion claims to be spiritual or supernatural

I'm not being condescending with this question. I genuinely want to know, in your own words, how you describe evolution.

Well to start im far from the big 3 religions. I just see where some sects of it are coming from.

As for evolution, i believe it is the fact that species over time adapt and change to their enviornment using mutations and survival of the fittest while some lines go extinct others flurish. This causes some anomoloes to become a boon while others do not. I have the understanding we can trace most back, but there are gaps, and the biggest is the progenetor, what started life on earth. Will we some day know that? Probably, but today we dont.

As for spiritualism in this. I believe spiritualism will always have a hold on things materialistic science will never know. After death, conciousness beyond the material, and so on. And that spiritualism is a necessary way for the common man to "fill in the blanks" for these things to sate the innate fear of the unknown they hold.

As a druid, one of the big things is wisdom and knowledge, which means not discrediting science or religion, but exploring the thought processes of both. I have come to the understanding that both sides, materialistic, and spiritual, of the arguement are far to quick to discredit each other.

When in actuality they tend to go hand in hand. While spiritualism answers the why, or what for, materialism explains the how, and what is.

For most common man.

It has been that way for as long as humans have been. And if you look, as man understood more of the material, the spiritual has shrunk.