Message from @meratrix

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2019-01-31 19:08:26 UTC  

what are these holes in the theory of evolution?

2019-01-31 19:09:39 UTC  

Its mostly where some traits came to be, and missing links in the paths.

2019-01-31 19:09:48 UTC  

ah yes, the missing links

2019-01-31 19:09:56 UTC  

But its enough to prevent it from becoming a law.

2019-01-31 19:10:05 UTC  

There are no "missing links".

2019-01-31 19:10:09 UTC  

Doesn't that only apply to humans?

2019-01-31 19:10:30 UTC  

Im fairly certain we've traced the evolutionary paths of other species pretty clearly.

2019-01-31 19:10:36 UTC  

There are tons of missing links. Hell we are still discovering many species. And many species are changing.

2019-01-31 19:11:19 UTC  

There are no "missing links" because evolution doesn't just happen over night. It's a gradual change that takes a large amount of time.

2019-01-31 19:11:30 UTC  

we have evidence for both micro and macroevolution though, so these "missing" links are not holes in the theory

2019-01-31 19:11:36 UTC  

Hell 10 years ago veloceraptor was a scaled human size creature, 20 it was cold blooded.
Now its a warm blooded feathered creature

2019-01-31 19:12:35 UTC  

how is our expanding knowledge of fossils somehow a failure of the theory of evolution, though?

2019-01-31 19:12:44 UTC  

My point is unlike gravity, or motion, evolution and the species are constantly changing.

2019-01-31 19:12:58 UTC  

Yes, that's whole point of evolution.

2019-01-31 19:13:00 UTC  

evolution is not constantly changing

2019-01-31 19:13:01 UTC  

Jesus Christ

2019-01-31 19:13:11 UTC  

yes as well, but in layman's terms.

2019-01-31 19:13:14 UTC  

I never said it was a failure

2019-01-31 19:13:18 UTC  

the theory is pretty solid and described in detail in scientific literature

2019-01-31 19:13:31 UTC  

and by pretty solid I mean incredibly solid <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2019-01-31 19:13:56 UTC  

Every time an organism is conceived, it can have a mutation. Enough of these build up and it leads to something different than before over many, many, many, many generations.

2019-01-31 19:14:03 UTC  

I said it was enough to prevent it from being a law like other scientific ideas, completely different from failure

2019-01-31 19:14:08 UTC  

no

2019-01-31 19:14:12 UTC  

literally just no

2019-01-31 19:14:23 UTC  

gravity breaks down on the quantum level, and is not described by the "law"

2019-01-31 19:14:27 UTC  

Gravity is a theory.

2019-01-31 19:14:30 UTC  

through and through

2019-01-31 19:14:32 UTC  

Newton's law of universal gravitation

2019-01-31 19:14:34 UTC  

it is a theory

2019-01-31 19:14:37 UTC  

the same way as evolution.

2019-01-31 19:14:47 UTC  

It is still classed as a theory

2019-01-31 19:14:52 UTC  

stop playing semantics games

2019-01-31 19:15:30 UTC  

Then if it breaks down at the quantum level, it too isnt omnesipent.

2019-01-31 19:16:16 UTC  

Its ok to not have all the answers. It doesnt discret it or mean its a failure

2019-01-31 19:16:18 UTC  

much smarter men than I have taken on this discussion before

2019-01-31 19:16:30 UTC  

I think yall are mistaking my point

2019-01-31 19:16:50 UTC  

I was trying to get to your point, by asking about the spiritualism stuff

2019-01-31 19:17:05 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Tell me, what do you think evolution is.

2019-01-31 19:17:08 UTC  

because I've heard this from religious people before

2019-01-31 19:17:27 UTC  

not saying you're necessarily religious, that's just where I usually hear it

2019-01-31 19:18:23 UTC  

and I feel it is a misguided argument, born from not understanding how science really works at the fundamental level, or how our expanding knowledge might lead us closer to explaining some of the things that religion claims to be spiritual or supernatural