Message from @Jabba
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Greece thinks it has good culture? <:what:382980756139409409>
And this also begs the question: Better culture than WHAT others?
I wasn't surprised by that stat
Source: I worked in Greece ππΏ
Quickest way I can explain it
Two Fagles
Meh
The Greeks have good food, sexy women, nice weather and they don't pay taxes π€·πΏ
None of them can afford any of the above.
Also dead people wash up on their beaches, kills the mood.
The crap that the Indianans was living in a utopia is a lie made up by
modern hippies and such.
Early 2000s it was like that though
but there's that part where they made it a national sport to not pay taxes
Lot's of money coming in
People from all over
nowt ending up with the tax man
As I've said before I reckon us EU migrants working out there probs paid more taxes
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Ah yes, the Greeks...
...thinking they can get gibs because of classical culture - not how it works - although that's kinda the problem everywhere in the West, thinking there is some sort of bed of laurels to lounge on because of the achievements of previous generations.
The myth of tribal utopia is from the Marxist school of bullshit
- tribal structure was communist, but it was no utopia... tribes thought nothing of genociding each other over a grudge or convenience.
The communism was self-contained within each tribe, and each tribe member had to serve a useful function or face banishment.
Which in itself *is not real communism*
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real communism has never been tried
real nazism has never been tried
yeah, it was communism inasmuch that it was based around the community with a sharing of resources, but there were social structures ranging from chiefs to slaves (slaves usually sign of agriculture, not nomads).
And vast trade networks
So really, 'distributism' is closer to tribalism than communism is
I'll respectfully disagree - sure they traded, but there was no fundamental right to property ownership - means of production was nevertheless directed by the chief and tribal members couldn't really argue their assigned place.
- That said, it is clearly not the Marxist utopia often assigned to it
Depends what tribes we're talking about
In some places, production was an emergent phenomenon based on who was naturally good at what
And some tribes became specialized in a few products in order to trade with other tribes
Like the Chinook trade network in the Northwest of North America
There were tribes that did nothing but fish all day, and other ones that specialized in being bartering merchants using that dried fish
yes, also depends when we're talking... 10,000 BC is going to be different from 1600 AD
Also, as soon as you're talking about several tribes, there's no guarantee that they were all the same - this is assumed for convenience.
- Specialisation probably reduced conflict e.g. fishermen would not be hunting same buffalo herd as the tribe next door
- so if multiple tribes developed exclusive specialisations, it would minimise risk of genocide and the entire trade network should be seen more akin to how city states worked.
*It's almost like Capitalism is an emergent phenomenon of human behavior...*
'Socialist'
Likes Chairman Mao