Death sentence in the west isn't even that common anymore

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what countries even still have it?

You would have to get them from China and other shitholes

some states in the US I believe, and mostly third world countries.

No

I dont know any european nations which do capital punishments.

Respect people’s rights, no matter how abhorrent they are

And it's mostly political dissidents or actual journalist in those countries

@AlephKnoll

A legend

Ok thx

Its interesting that russia has a practical abolition on execution

but belarus doesn't

@Kalandros May I ask why? Sure, I do agree. But I would love to hear an explanation of why.

@MountainMan it's *universal* rights

Because you wouldn’t want it to happen to you either. We need to remember that under layers of badness, there is still a human convinced they’re doing the right thing

So people who have commited crimes against humanity, they shouldn't be executed?

No, I don’t think they should

I see.

It's not revenge or cruelty, it's a balance of reforming and keeping society safe

They should stand trial and be imprisoned for life, or at least dealt with accordingly

Yeah I agree^

If anything because you can't ever be sure that there wasn't a mistake

I see. I personally havent even made up my mind on capital punishment yet.

Every once in a while you hear of some dude that was proven innocent after spending 50 years in jail or something

I don’t agree with capital punishment, but I can understand the reasoning behind it

Kill them and you've killed an innocent

If you kill a murderer, the amount of murderers does not change

Nobody should have the right to deprive someone else of life

So you believe that every single human being deserves the right to live?

Hmm.

I do

I understand.

It’s why I’m against abortion as well

I wouldn’t forbid it, but on a moral level I condemn it

More like we don't have the authority to kill someone in a court @MountainMan

Of course if the dude is a thret in the street its understandable to kill him

Or self defense