Message from @Kalandros

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2019-02-18 20:30:55 UTC  

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2019-02-18 20:30:58 UTC  

A legend

2019-02-18 20:31:02 UTC  

Ok thx

2019-02-18 20:31:14 UTC  

Its interesting that russia has a practical abolition on execution

2019-02-18 20:31:19 UTC  

but belarus doesn't

2019-02-18 20:32:05 UTC  

@Kalandros May I ask why? Sure, I do agree. But I would love to hear an explanation of why.

2019-02-18 20:32:35 UTC  

@MountainMan it's *universal* rights

2019-02-18 20:32:55 UTC  

Because you wouldn’t want it to happen to you either. We need to remember that under layers of badness, there is still a human convinced they’re doing the right thing

2019-02-18 20:33:29 UTC  

So people who have commited crimes against humanity, they shouldn't be executed?

2019-02-18 20:33:42 UTC  

No, I don’t think they should

2019-02-18 20:33:46 UTC  

I see.

2019-02-18 20:33:55 UTC  

It's not revenge or cruelty, it's a balance of reforming and keeping society safe

2019-02-18 20:33:58 UTC  

They should stand trial and be imprisoned for life, or at least dealt with accordingly

2019-02-18 20:34:11 UTC  

Yeah I agree^

2019-02-18 20:34:37 UTC  

If anything because you can't ever be sure that there wasn't a mistake

2019-02-18 20:34:43 UTC  

I see. I personally havent even made up my mind on capital punishment yet.

2019-02-18 20:35:13 UTC  

Every once in a while you hear of some dude that was proven innocent after spending 50 years in jail or something

2019-02-18 20:35:25 UTC  

I don’t agree with capital punishment, but I can understand the reasoning behind it

2019-02-18 20:35:25 UTC  

Kill them and you've killed an innocent

2019-02-18 20:36:01 UTC  

If you kill a murderer, the amount of murderers does not change

2019-02-18 20:36:26 UTC  

Nobody should have the right to deprive someone else of life

2019-02-18 20:36:54 UTC  

So you believe that every single human being deserves the right to live?

2019-02-18 20:36:59 UTC  

Hmm.

2019-02-18 20:37:03 UTC  

I do

2019-02-18 20:37:05 UTC  

I understand.

2019-02-18 20:37:10 UTC  

It’s why I’m against abortion as well

2019-02-18 20:37:24 UTC  

I wouldn’t forbid it, but on a moral level I condemn it

2019-02-18 20:37:31 UTC  

More like we don't have the authority to kill someone in a court @MountainMan

2019-02-18 20:38:09 UTC  

Of course if the dude is a thret in the street its understandable to kill him

2019-02-18 20:38:12 UTC  

Or self defense

2019-02-18 20:38:38 UTC  

But how come? People like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Ladin, Mao Zaedon, Adolf Hitler, Stalin, those damn school shooters, etc. Do they also deserve to live? Even if they have caused so much harm?

2019-02-18 20:38:49 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-18 20:38:54 UTC  

I see.

2019-02-18 20:38:57 UTC  

Yes, they are still human after all

2019-02-18 20:38:58 UTC  

The point of justice isn't revenge

2019-02-18 20:39:10 UTC  

It's not going to do anything

2019-02-18 20:39:17 UTC  

Ahhh. I see. You think like that. @Kalandros

2019-02-18 20:39:27 UTC  

I dont view them as humans at that point.

2019-02-18 20:39:34 UTC  

They're disgusting cretin.

2019-02-18 20:39:48 UTC  

I do not forgive their deeds, but I want to give them as person a fair chance

2019-02-18 20:39:54 UTC  

There is no doubt they are scum