Message from @Kalandros
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@MountainMan it's *universal* rights
Because you wouldn’t want it to happen to you either. We need to remember that under layers of badness, there is still a human convinced they’re doing the right thing
So people who have commited crimes against humanity, they shouldn't be executed?
No, I don’t think they should
I see.
It's not revenge or cruelty, it's a balance of reforming and keeping society safe
They should stand trial and be imprisoned for life, or at least dealt with accordingly
Yeah I agree^
If anything because you can't ever be sure that there wasn't a mistake
I see. I personally havent even made up my mind on capital punishment yet.
Every once in a while you hear of some dude that was proven innocent after spending 50 years in jail or something
I don’t agree with capital punishment, but I can understand the reasoning behind it
Kill them and you've killed an innocent
If you kill a murderer, the amount of murderers does not change
Nobody should have the right to deprive someone else of life
So you believe that every single human being deserves the right to live?
Hmm.
I do
I understand.
It’s why I’m against abortion as well
More like we don't have the authority to kill someone in a court @MountainMan
Of course if the dude is a thret in the street its understandable to kill him
Or self defense
But how come? People like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Ladin, Mao Zaedon, Adolf Hitler, Stalin, those damn school shooters, etc. Do they also deserve to live? Even if they have caused so much harm?
Yes
I see.
Yes, they are still human after all
The point of justice isn't revenge
It's not going to do anything
Ahhh. I see. You think like that. @Kalandros
I dont view them as humans at that point.
They're disgusting cretin.
I do not forgive their deeds, but I want to give them as person a fair chance
There is no doubt they are scum
But if you start killing people like that, you set a bad standard
Because it justifies them doing the same to you
@Ondsinet Very true. Not something I can argue against.
But even if it justifies them doing the same, it dosent change anything. Because they are still doing the murder.
And rotting the rest of your life in a dark hole is not that great probably
Meh. Swedish prison is pretty damn lit.