Message from @Decoy
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I want a christian Theocracy REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DEUS VULT
neo-jewish*
Galactic Catholic
organized religion should die before humanity expands beyond this planet. Don't want to end up with islamo-mars vs. catholic-orbital-of-uranus <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>
Spread Conservative Thots across the Milky Way
Catholic orbital of uranus
LOL, Owen Jones doesn't understand that he's living through the decline of the West - the thing he prays for - but doesn't like how it feels.
Haha
@Mal Why would you assume anyone but Christians are getting off this planet alive? lol
Do you have an idea to create an artificially constructed culture that is devoid of spirituality yet still gives a sense of deep meaning and belonging to those who belong to it, and help us to understand deep philosophical questions pertaining to objective morality and ethics?
Or are you like Sam Harris and just use a magic wand to declare yourself "secular" from this moment forward?
"uh uh uh.... we don't have free will, even though it seems like we do, and we should act as if we do, and there's no evidence for my claim other than that it scares me."
LuL
I spent the longest time arguing that religion isn't necessary to have a good society but currently I find even I can't believe that myself
Shid Friz I'm falling asleep ping me if you eventually reply so I can find it
@Ondsinet I think it's becoming obvious that both a state, and a religion are necessarily inherent to a society, and in cases where a religion is not a part of society, one will emerge to take that place.
It's almost like a 'niche' in an ecological biome, to make an analogy
I see
Progressivism has replaced the Church in western society, because the original church has been pushed out
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I think a better descriptor of these phenomenon might be "enforced cultural heterodoxy"
I've been thinking about this all week, so I'll be taking my time to write my thoughts lol
I've always believed that there shouldn't be the need for a god to set a morality or to coerce people to be moral themselves (the old argument that atheists are more virtuous bcz they don't need a skydaddy to be good) but currently seeibg people flaunt how they like to kill kids, the government taking kids away from parents to get them to transition, and a bunch more stuff I don't want to remember before sleeping are convincing me of the opposite
Perhaps, but I'd like to point out that a set of ethics *IS INDEED* being enforced, and coerced, and it *IS* uniform.
That's the weird thing. This entire Progressive, secular culture has been an emergent phenomenon, yet has evolved into an enforceable heterodoxy
So it's not that there's a *lack* of a religion
I'm sure that people COULD be virtuous without a supernatural element. But that's not what emerged from the collective
Yeah in not saying individuals can't be without religion
I think long term though, without an authoritative authority over the cultural heterodoxy, the present culture will eventually purity spiral into a hierarchical battle between groups
Like today
Authoritative authority
Think of driving a car, and taking your hands off the wheel.
Sure, it may go straight for a while, but then it will start to drift a little to one direction, and then get sharper and sharper, eventually flipping
Authoritative, like a collection of works, or a "passing of the torch" kind of position that relays what the heterodox SHOULD be
When you think about it, just the idea that America's constitution has a defined "truth" within it, is probably what has kept most of us on track in the US even without a religious authority.
People can point to it and say "See?? But this says GOD GIVEN RIGHT"
whats with Reggie, former CEO of nintendo of america