Message from @flyingfoxel
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the problem with being certain your philosophical position is you can't accept the possibility of being wrong and thus come off is being incredibly arrogant.
In Peterson's mine in his personal truth he is a hundred percent sure that he is correct.
I much prefer ham sarris.
I think peterson's willing to adapt
but sometimes kinda
forgets
to listen
happens to everyone
His "stay sleeping" podcast is really insightful
I would listen to Sam Harris more if I could stand his voice
Just the sound of his voice fills me with unrelenting rage.
Like, I totally get what Peterson is trying to get across. Makes perfect sense to me.
But he uses too much metaphysical language to get his points across, which turns some people off who aren't paying too close attention to the content of his message
And I have nowhere to direct it because I can't disagree with him
@Fitzydog my working theory is if you can't explain it to a five-year-old you are either trying to trick the person into agreeing with you or you don't fully understand the concept with which you are arguing with
I think the issue is, Lexicon
is that peterson has those in the titles of his 12 rules
Yeah, but if you could explain any of this to a 5 year old, we wouldn't have come up with religion
his 12 rules, stated as they are, are easy to follow
the chapters are for the Big Brain Deep Think explanation
of why you should follow them and the full details of the rules
I know for a fact that those 12 rules will not work for everyone.
In fact some people with great drive and people with little Drive will actually be harmed by trying to follow those rules
@flyingfoxel Like, there's a reason the NPC meme exists. You think those people its based on have any ability to understand the complexities of the human psyche in complete detail?
Or *want to?*
That's fair, Lexi
Everyone's different
That's what I'm trying to get at the book is a circlejerk if you're already conscious enough to pick up the book in the first place you probably don't need it.
I think in your head, you're inadvertently strawmanning his argument
oof lexi
that's a big oof
frigid take
I mean, if its an antidote for chaos, it kinda assumes that chaos is the problem your having if you follow the book.
Plus, you're conflating two different works of his into one, @flyingfoxel
If it isnt your problem then it stands to reason the rules wont help much
I'm talking generally about the person and when I mention the book I'm talking specifically about the book
^
I'm talking about Maps of Meaning
If you've got a good grip on your life, you probably won't need 12 rules
Virgin ww2 vs chad 7 years war.
If your life is a clusterfuck it may do you some good
There are people who literally thrive on chaos. Aswell which is something he doesn't really take into account. I know plenty of artists and people in the military who don't feel normal unless they are actively in some chaotic situation.