Message from @Roarey

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2018-11-01 02:55:31 UTC  

Physics is the observation of how the universe operates, it is subjected to constant rigorous testing and updating of information to get as close to objectivity as we can. Morality isn't the measurement of physical properties it is about the beliefs of human beings. Comparing the two is laughable XP. And again, you can't explain how morality is objective. All you can do is throw out more and more nonsensical questions and demands for arguments from me. You can't supply your own. Weak.

2018-11-01 02:56:04 UTC  

@Roarey what did you expect from a zealot?

2018-11-01 02:56:15 UTC  

Can we exchange "objective morality" with "universal ethic"?

2018-11-01 02:56:17 UTC  

Nothing, I'm just enjoying myself

2018-11-01 02:56:47 UTC  

@Roarey -

Does reason exist?

Does math exist?

Does language exist?

Do words exist?

Do definitions of words exist?

2018-11-01 02:57:04 UTC  

If you claim i cannot derive morality from logic i assume that means i cannot determine morality from reason as well?

2018-11-01 02:57:20 UTC  

You have no positive argument to make

2018-11-01 02:57:24 UTC  

I think logic and reason are the same things.

2018-11-01 02:57:30 UTC  

Yeah not answering several questions mate. You supply an argument for how morality is objective. I've already done enough XP

2018-11-01 02:57:50 UTC  

@Roarey but that requires *e f f o r t*

2018-11-01 02:58:10 UTC  

logic - reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
reason - a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.

2018-11-01 02:58:27 UTC  

@Roarey - They all have the same three letter answer of "yes".

2018-11-01 02:58:48 UTC  

I don't see the point of you even asking them.

2018-11-01 02:58:48 UTC  

My only point was if you believe morality is a personal preference i dont have to care about what you think about it

2018-11-01 02:59:06 UTC  

Still not argued for how morality is objective.

2018-11-01 02:59:08 UTC  

You still haven't supplied how morality is objective

2018-11-01 02:59:14 UTC  

Waiting.

2018-11-01 02:59:19 UTC  

afk - gotta piss

2018-11-01 02:59:21 UTC  

Go on.

2018-11-01 02:59:24 UTC  

lol

2018-11-01 02:59:31 UTC  

Go on bitch.

2018-11-01 02:59:43 UTC  

Tell me more about your non positive opinion

2018-11-01 02:59:46 UTC  

<:lobster:442083482211188738>

2018-11-01 02:59:59 UTC  

Why don't you actually back up a claim for once dan?

2018-11-01 03:00:01 UTC  

If it is only a preference why do you care?

2018-11-01 03:00:02 UTC  

I'll take it as a no then. Shame. Not even an attempt.

2018-11-01 03:00:14 UTC  

Ttfn.

2018-11-01 03:00:27 UTC  

You cannot even judge it in your world view

2018-11-01 03:00:35 UTC  

@Roarey He is best friends with commies who cannot argue so what did you expect?

2018-11-01 03:01:19 UTC  

Didn't miss much it looks like.

2018-11-01 03:01:38 UTC  

The old Hitchens 2 step

2018-11-01 03:02:11 UTC  

The things I listed were not things you observe in reality. They are reflections of reality. Much like how behavior is a reflection of concepts put into action that then create real effects.

2018-11-01 03:02:14 UTC  

I didn't miss much

2018-11-01 03:02:35 UTC  

Apparently

2018-11-01 03:02:41 UTC  

When people have an argument, both sides are supposed to make their case. I've made mine, you haven't made yours. And you won't because you know it is so laughably dumb I could tear it apart easier than I break wind.

2018-11-01 03:02:55 UTC  

You have made no case

2018-11-01 03:03:10 UTC  

you are just staking on a non positive claim

2018-11-01 03:03:11 UTC  

aka

2018-11-01 03:03:13 UTC  

The point of that is that just with the other things you can use concepts to construct what objective morality would be just based on the premises of the words themselves that are then acted out in the world that then can be measured for their effects with various metrics.

2018-11-01 03:03:17 UTC  

the Hitchens 2 step