facts or objective, but morality doesnt have an objective measure in facts

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - You are a talking bottle of water.

Fact

The whole point of objective morality is that it is true regardless of perception

What is right and wrong is different in every culture, in every religion, group, fucking family.

so you have proven nothing

Those perceptions are still based on something

killing people is against my morals yet i speared a deer through the neck for eating the tops of my tomato plants off. got 50000 acres to burry a body

so is covering up a child sex ring because you are the diviner of objective morality good?

i bet people go the same way,

you tomatoes probably suck compared to mine

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - False premise

That is extremely immoral

Morality is true regardless of perception? Okay, then what is morality without sentient beings to perceive?

this is true but thats why i cherrish them so, canada has a shit growing season

and they will be judged in court and before god for what they have done

@Roarey - What is English without humans to speak it?

But they are the word of god on earth right?

no

who has ever claimed that

then who gave you your objective moral code?

@ConceptHut that's another discussion entirely. I want him to define what he means by morality.

Ethics and metaphysics is more complicated than quantum mechanics, imo

his holy book duh

who wrote and moderated that?

@Fitzydog that's because one is real and the other is a crock of shit

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```
Morality - principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.``` - Dictionary

I've never seen a God that thinks you go to heaven without believing in that particular God.

@Deleted User Which one? <:think_woke:378717098681171988>

If morality is an objective standard that exists indipendantly of individual human perception then what is morality?

@Fitzydog ambigouity is good

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uhhhh

Yes greyfag principles and principles are subjective truths that people hold to themselves to stand by.

it is right or wrong behavior

How many people who claim to objective morality follow said morality completely?

Those principles are also heavily influenced by the surrounding Society. when you lose the context of the society surrounding or principles they often break down to be something entirely different and you'll find yourself killing people based purely on the fact that they're picking your fucking tomatoes

you attempt to

Fact: Greyfags are dummies

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - Zero. Better than going with nothing though.