Naw just removing the senate from being a citizen vote and returning it to state appointments will do wonders

Like it was meant

Working and paying taxes or military service to vote sounds good (or having worked for a normal amount of time before retiring)

Right, the other argument goes that otherwise you're giving people without property the opportunity to participate in a system that disproportionately regulates those with property.

well you have to be fair to both sides

The issue is. There are levels. People renting tend to vote for property taxes, because they never see thetax

Education requirements are needed

Right, and people who rent apartments or facilities are biased to vote for rent controls even though rent control almost invariably fails.

still can't take away my rights as an undereducated bottom feeder

Especially if they vote in property taxes. Because they dont realize those taxes hit their property owner and they have to raise rent

fuck you very much for trying 😄

how about a system where you vote upward about issues in your current field of expertise, then the foremen of those groups tally the votes and send them in to be enacted

on whatever issue

"Foreman" sounds like some syndicalism bs

you've never worked blue collar?

and if you have, you didn't have a foreman?

I have worked blue collar all my life except military

But that sounds basically like a union run gov aka syndicalism

ill have you faggots know i voted against my own best interests because it would have been unfair policy

suck my dick

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okay how about "manager"

Doesnt matter how you word it

walking away from the computer now <:NPC:500042735617703967>

but if it's in the interest of fairness and liberty how is it against your best interest?

It puts to much power in the hands of unions/companies

isn't that any man's best interest?

that's the entire point of the hypothetical system, is people getting more power in their votes if they're actually in the business that's affected

Fairness for someone not you or your family isnt in your own interest

but apparently that's communism

Syndicalism*

but participating in a fair system is

fairness for just one isn't fairness at all buddy

You dont have to vote without a state in communism

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] if you vote for something that raises your taxes but no one elses. Is that fair? And even say it is fair, is that in your own interest?

That's a strange hypothetical. Let's use something a bit more realistic.

It is realistic

What realistic tax would you vote to only pay yourself?

Say your upper middle class. The tax raise is on all of the upper middle class but no other group.

I don't see it.