Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2018-11-13 19:19:57 UTC  

fuck you very much for trying 😄

2018-11-13 19:20:11 UTC  

how about a system where you vote upward about issues in your current field of expertise, then the foremen of those groups tally the votes and send them in to be enacted

2018-11-13 19:20:25 UTC  

on whatever issue

2018-11-13 19:20:43 UTC  

"Foreman" sounds like some syndicalism bs

2018-11-13 19:21:08 UTC  

you've never worked blue collar?

2018-11-13 19:21:23 UTC  

and if you have, you didn't have a foreman?

2018-11-13 19:21:30 UTC  

I have worked blue collar all my life except military

2018-11-13 19:21:49 UTC  

But that sounds basically like a union run gov aka syndicalism

2018-11-13 19:21:51 UTC  

ill have you faggots know i voted against my own best interests because it would have been unfair policy

2018-11-13 19:21:58 UTC  

suck my dick

2018-11-13 19:22:25 UTC  

^

2018-11-13 19:22:34 UTC  

okay how about "manager"

2018-11-13 19:22:45 UTC  

Doesnt matter how you word it

2018-11-13 19:22:55 UTC  

walking away from the computer now <:NPC:500042735617703967>

2018-11-13 19:23:01 UTC  

but if it's in the interest of fairness and liberty how is it against your best interest?

2018-11-13 19:23:04 UTC  

It puts to much power in the hands of unions/companies

2018-11-13 19:23:10 UTC  

isn't that any man's best interest?

2018-11-13 19:23:22 UTC  

that's the entire point of the hypothetical system, is people getting more power in their votes if they're actually in the business that's affected

2018-11-13 19:23:49 UTC  

Fairness for someone not you or your family isnt in your own interest

2018-11-13 19:23:59 UTC  

but apparently that's communism

2018-11-13 19:24:07 UTC  

Syndicalism*

2018-11-13 19:24:09 UTC  

but participating in a fair system is

2018-11-13 19:24:19 UTC  

fairness for just one isn't fairness at all buddy

2018-11-13 19:24:42 UTC  

You dont have to vote without a state in communism

2018-11-13 19:25:26 UTC  

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] if you vote for something that raises your taxes but no one elses. Is that fair? And even say it is fair, is that in your own interest?

2018-11-13 19:26:13 UTC  

That's a strange hypothetical. Let's use something a bit more realistic.

2018-11-13 19:26:22 UTC  

It is realistic

2018-11-13 19:26:42 UTC  

What realistic tax would you vote to only pay yourself?

2018-11-13 19:26:49 UTC  

Say your upper middle class. The tax raise is on all of the upper middle class but no other group.

2018-11-13 19:26:49 UTC  

I don't see it.

2018-11-13 19:27:14 UTC  

It might be "fair" because say your class has a lower rate than the rest

2018-11-13 19:27:26 UTC  

Bht viting for it isnt in your best interest

2018-11-13 19:27:51 UTC  

It's in your interest if it benefits a society which in turn benefits you.

2018-11-13 19:27:55 UTC  

Fair is a subjective statement.

2018-11-13 19:27:57 UTC  

ie a proper society

2018-11-13 19:28:07 UTC  

What is fair to one group isnt to another

2018-11-13 19:28:22 UTC  

I think we disagree on what fair means.

2018-11-13 19:28:49 UTC  

Ie. The top 10% pay more than the other 90, one group says thats their fair shar, others say their fair share is more

2018-11-13 19:29:03 UTC  

Fair is always subjective

2018-11-13 19:29:42 UTC  

Is it fair women were the only group to gain voting rights without selective service or bucket duty? Some say yes, some no.

2018-11-13 19:29:50 UTC  

Maybe I should just use a different word then.