This is irreconcilable at this point, you appear to enjoy burning piles of tax payers money for the craic

I would have no problem with that if

lol no, I want to see the fed collapse

The US while financing the whole thing retained their rights to the tech, it's pants on head to not get something out of the offered finance

They have so much leverage given they determine whether it even happens

I mean, it's not like we have the rights to a lot of our current tech anyways

But we'll have to see the details of the contract regardless, the BBC article may be misconstruing it

The intricate systems of the F35 and F22 are still owned by Lockheed and Boeing, and have to be remotely accessed to be fixed

Our mechanics have to call tech support for our greatest fighter jets lol

Yeah, those are US headquartered companies if nothing else

Which sell planes to Turkey, unlike Israel which probably wouldn't do the same

Friendly reminder. Fuck the F-35, and fuck the JSF for beimg fucked.

Norway says thanks for all the money you are giving us for not giving up on the F-35 😛

Fuck their retarded helmet that doesn't work half the time and their fucked built-in logistics bullshit that cripples the whole thing when it (often) fails.

"HELMET BROKE, MAYDAY, LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO OPERATE THE AIRCRAFT NOW, MAYDAY!"

That's like Death Star levels of oversight.

"Yeah there's this one fatal flaw to our superweapon, only have to hit it with a torpedo ONCE and it self-destructs."
-Joint Strike Fighter group

I kinda feel like you don't like that plane at all

@Ondsinet lol no one likes the plane

that seems like a broad generalization

do you have some polls?

have you interviewed the regular Joe on the street about the plane?

No, but I've never heard anyone say something positive, and I've spoken to a couple of people who have been involved with the maintenance

It is literally a failure on every level.

It's the old adage of "design by committee"

Reports I've read state that it underperforms on ACTUALLY EVERYTHING.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/air-force-pilot-why-f-35-so-deadly-i-can-look-through-airplane-and-see-ground-below-me

I'm just parodizing Vee don't worry

Right, It's a "jack of all trades, master of none"

I don't mind about the plane

They went insane with the 'multi-role fighter' concept.

Both the 22 and 35 are so bad at dogfighting, that we have to keep the F15 around just to fill that potential role

Ah just like the Phantom from the Luftwaffe, how to get one? Buy a big field and wait for one to crash

22 wasn't bad

No, it's not bad at all

But it's not a fighter jet

It's a stealth fighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR8kjzkpR2M

Yes

For interception, even Eielson Air Base still keeps F15s in case the Russians get froggy

F-16 was my favorite as kid