@DiscordantFool Let's take the Raptor for instance:

We paid WAYYY more in R&D for that. And it was never tested in combat before purchase.

We subsidized it, and gave tons of money to Boeing to develop.

After it was done, we still had to purchase a unit from Boeing.

How is this different?

Ever consider that that is equally retarded?

Yes?

If anything more so, I'd bet that was 10s of billions

Yes that's my fucking point

This deal was terrific

Lmao so we agree

@franti <:pepe_eyes:378719408362881024>

walking talking cunt

I'm pointing out the Israel one because its recent

You're complaining about the best defense deal we've ever had lol

Oh wow

Neo con pls

Honestly, it's not a bad business plan: give development money to at risk nations to build systems that will actually see use, and then snatch it up later lol

This is irreconcilable at this point, you appear to enjoy burning piles of tax payers money for the craic

I would have no problem with that if

lol no, I want to see the fed collapse

The US while financing the whole thing retained their rights to the tech, it's pants on head to not get something out of the offered finance

They have so much leverage given they determine whether it even happens

I mean, it's not like we have the rights to a lot of our current tech anyways

But we'll have to see the details of the contract regardless, the BBC article may be misconstruing it

The intricate systems of the F35 and F22 are still owned by Lockheed and Boeing, and have to be remotely accessed to be fixed

Our mechanics have to call tech support for our greatest fighter jets lol

Yeah, those are US headquartered companies if nothing else

Which sell planes to Turkey, unlike Israel which probably wouldn't do the same

Friendly reminder. Fuck the F-35, and fuck the JSF for beimg fucked.

Norway says thanks for all the money you are giving us for not giving up on the F-35 😛

Fuck their retarded helmet that doesn't work half the time and their fucked built-in logistics bullshit that cripples the whole thing when it (often) fails.

"HELMET BROKE, MAYDAY, LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO OPERATE THE AIRCRAFT NOW, MAYDAY!"

That's like Death Star levels of oversight.

"Yeah there's this one fatal flaw to our superweapon, only have to hit it with a torpedo ONCE and it self-destructs."
-Joint Strike Fighter group

I kinda feel like you don't like that plane at all

@Ondsinet lol no one likes the plane

that seems like a broad generalization

do you have some polls?

have you interviewed the regular Joe on the street about the plane?

No, but I've never heard anyone say something positive, and I've spoken to a couple of people who have been involved with the maintenance

It is literally a failure on every level.

It's the old adage of "design by committee"

Reports I've read state that it underperforms on ACTUALLY EVERYTHING.