Yes but even if they could be rewritten, can you rewrite someone to think for themselves, especially if they are, let's say, in their 30s-40s years of age

I think some could but most couldn't

like that feminist woman that Sargon interviewed the other day

good luck reprogramming THAT

@meratrix you reckon her book will be any good?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Woke-Social-Justice-Titania-McGrath/dp/1472130847/

@KawaiiSamurai for that to happen, you would need to destroy their old persona and rebuild it from the ground up

you would have to remove them from their existing surroundings

^

or bring new surroundings to them

i.e. if/when their area gets hit by an economic depression

@galesteppes the question I think about, what role does our development through childhood and adolescence play in constructing our individuality, and if that development is poisoned, can you ever really recover from that at a later age once brain development has fully matured

also they need to be made to see just how naive it is to put faith in any kind of federal body for anything more than border protection, military and maybe a couple other things

they need to have a "wow these people are really corrupt" moment

@KawaiiSamurai I guess this is where we wait for implanting false memories

I'd put protection of inter-state markets in that category as well as anti-trust

oh shit blade runner 2049 here we come

I feel you could argue that Mythology was an effective tool for instilling values through a more ancient use of neuro linguistic programming

I would argue that actually

Sorry, I was arguing with a Bloomer on JBPOD

bloomer?

The modern ethos seems to be more akin to a religion with all the radical zealotry

so what's the difference, really, between teaching your kid allegorical stories as if they are true, versus implanting false memories through some blade-runner future replicant

I guess the difference being the mythos is more easily abstracted

I would say the stories are better than the false memories on the long-term, or more likely to survive the challenging stage of adolescence, versus false memories, but who knows

@Fitzydog yeah that's one way to put it

It's like giving someone a mathmetical formula versus giving them several examples and expecting them to abstract the formula from those

i.e. the Jungian archetypes

@Fitzydog fucks a bloomer?

it's one of the reasons why I'm specializing in machine learning

@galesteppes Opposite of black pilled lol

because there's a lot of simple phrases which you can abstract a formula and apply it to a data model

@Fitzydog he probably gets more pussy than you

and the principle of doing that has been applied to all sorts of things, but machine learning is still cutting edge and so there's a lot of new ground to cover

that's why tech companies are paying buku bucks for programmers in ML

We barely understand how real learning works in humans lol

Is there a comparison to old children stories on the line of Grimm’s Fairytales and new reworked stories and the differences of the lessons extracted?

oh you want to hear something really scary

crazy conspiracy theory time

uh oh.

One last thing: I think 'tool centric' cognition is probably the most accurate to reality

and this is only because I happen to follow so many different fields that seem to be intersecting, and so it's fun to think about it in this way but it's still just a conspiracy

I think general machine intelligence may already exist in some capacity, maybe even multiple ones, and they are driving our innovation towards the singularity