Has it been proven that freedom of speech is conducive to functional societies?

@JohnStrasser But you can teach your kids to be critical thinkers. You can encourage them to read and investigate. And you can do the opposite of those things

Has it been proven that free markets work?

@PickerLeech you can try, but you can't make an 85 IQ sub-Saharan African a critical thinker. They don't have the tools for the job

Why do you think that whenever European explorers landed on Africa and giant ships capable of InterContinental travel the Africans hadn't even invented the wheel

That's not because their parents didn't teach them to create the wheel it's because they didn't have the cognitive ability to develop the technology

@Fitzydog not an argument

You sound kind of like a leftist, but I'd still have a conversation with you

i actually think there are 2 kinds of IQ
one is genetic, and the other one is how you were raised from a young age, and they average out to your IQ

How do we know that proper nurture during the formative years of 0-4years doesn't impact IQ development?

Have we done studies about household structure and parenting styles?

(We haven't)

iq isn't a thing even

Improper nourishment can lead to lower iq

If that's what you mean

No it's not

there's many kinds of intelligence, you can't just quantify everything into one number

It just seems kind of silly to completely ignore something so important because it doesn't have as much research as you like

I mean being raised in a proper household with two parents, and a stay at home mother

That's like saying an economic debate is pointless because we don't have enough research to show which system is most functional

If that were true, yes

You're making a statement of fact, based upon little information, because it makes you feel better

O rly

generally system functionality on a national scale is called least worst at best, most functional isn't a thing either

So how much more does IQ need to be studied for you to be able to talk about it

@TwinVickers semantics

the test is largely logic based

yes, i love semantics

IQ and race doesn't effect you in the *slightest* in every day life. You literally have no reason to even discuss it, just like I don't have a reason to discuss 8D quasicrystalline quantum mechanics.

but there really isn't a best anything ever

Austrian free markets make a lot of logical sense but in practice it doesn't

there is, it just it depends on the criteria @TwinVickers

@Fitzydog how about my earlier point. Sub-Saharan Africans weren't able to create the wheel

@JohnStrasser I refuse to take anything the social sciences say as fact until they have been purged of lefitsts

Is that due to improper parenting?

IQ studies weren't done by leftists

yeah you can always attach qualifiers to anything

What studies? There haven't been any except for US military ASVAB tests

They also didn't have a written language

@TwinVickers Ricky Gervais has a new podcast? Link please

Also, I forget what alt right is too. It gets confusing. I think I share Alt Right views. But then people I watch consider themselves left of centre. Very confusing.

Also, I think outspoken Atheists are a bit weird. Like who cares that you don't believe in God. How important is that exactly.

@JohnStrasser I agree with your wheel comments. When I think of the western world I do view people as having the tools but just not using them. Myself included. I guess it's all on a spectrum.

a lot of the research people feel like more right leaning

it's on sirius fm, he uploads it personally to youtube