Message from @oojimaflip

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2019-12-14 23:18:20 UTC  

well, it's probabalistic and not deterministic, so it can be considered *quantum*

2019-12-14 23:19:00 UTC  

consider each neuron to be a simple core with a small cache

2019-12-14 23:20:35 UTC  

it's unknown wether there is an upper limit to the number of states, one would presume at minimum, there would be three (high, low, median, in terms of voltage or *potential*)

2019-12-14 23:21:04 UTC  

these can be seen as analogous to yes, no and maybe

2019-12-14 23:22:15 UTC  

but seeing as the whole brain is very plastic, I see no reason to assume that only 3 states would arise. It's also possible different areas use different numbers of states

2019-12-14 23:23:48 UTC  

it is unclear as to how much signal processing happens in either the axons or the neurons

2019-12-14 23:26:20 UTC  

I mean, the way I look at it, our body has been "using" chemical processes long before we understood it.

2019-12-14 23:26:59 UTC  

So it makes me wonder if our body still uses some stuff we haven't discovered yet.

2019-12-14 23:27:21 UTC  

Like some laws of physics are still being used in ways we haven't understood yet. You know what I mean?

2019-12-14 23:28:09 UTC  

yes, I find the distinction between probabalistic and deterministic systems to very helpful

2019-12-14 23:28:13 UTC  

Maybe our understanding of our brain will get kicked up a notch if we make some major advancements in physics some day

2019-12-14 23:28:32 UTC  

probably not but maybe

2019-12-14 23:28:33 UTC  

lol

2019-12-14 23:28:40 UTC  

would be interesting

2019-12-14 23:28:45 UTC  

that I'm unsure of, because of the probabalistic nature of it

2019-12-14 23:29:38 UTC  

all quantum mechanics really says is that you can never really be sure

2019-12-14 23:30:33 UTC  

but the transistor shows that it is useful

2019-12-14 23:31:14 UTC  

I mean, the human brain would likely not be a good place to host a quantum computer as we understand them currently

2019-12-14 23:31:38 UTC  

but if humans can use them for certain calculations maybe the brain can to a certain extent?

2019-12-14 23:31:48 UTC  

given enough millions of years of evolution?

2019-12-14 23:33:03 UTC  

well, that's my point; human thought is largely uncertain as it operates at a fundamentally probabalistic level

2019-12-14 23:35:19 UTC  

even simple maths can't be considered a bitwise operation in the brain as the concept of numbers is learned and is likely grounded in some form of pattern encoding in multiple neurons and axons

2019-12-14 23:36:09 UTC  

whereas in a binary computer, each bit resolves down to a single transistor that is either high or low

2019-12-14 23:37:11 UTC  

so you think quantum shennanigans in the brain are a possibility? (sorry this field is not my forte but its interesting lol)

2019-12-14 23:37:32 UTC  

the brain *is quantum*

2019-12-14 23:38:16 UTC  

I don't think it's at all discrete

2019-12-14 23:38:30 UTC  

unlike a normal computer

2019-12-14 23:38:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415084101435423/655554283529437212/giphy1.gif

2019-12-14 23:41:57 UTC  

caveat: I've been thinking and reading about thought all my life, and I'm still unsure if I know anything.

2019-12-14 23:42:13 UTC  

now I'm :mindblown:

2019-12-15 03:02:48 UTC  

Yeah, one thing that sucks when trying to figure out how thought works is that I feel like human language is sorely lacking when it comes to describing the intricacies of how the mind works

2019-12-15 03:03:11 UTC  

talk to 100 philosophers about consciousness and you will probably have 100 definitions

2019-12-15 03:03:20 UTC  

talk to 100 philosophers about intelligence and you will probably have 100 definitions

2019-12-15 03:04:02 UTC  

it seems like its a huge problem because its almost impossible to talk about how consciousness works without talking past one another due to not having the same definitions.

2019-12-15 04:26:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415084101435423/655626594177515542/image0.png

2019-12-15 04:26:29 UTC  

supporting the hong kong rioters is supporting degeneracy

2019-12-15 04:27:08 UTC  

also, look at the caption under the Pelosi one

2019-12-15 04:27:25 UTC  

don't associate pelosi with socialism

2019-12-15 04:27:27 UTC  

we don't want her

2019-12-15 04:28:12 UTC  

When the UK controlled HK was it called Hong Bong?

2019-12-15 04:28:25 UTC  

probably