Message from @oojimaflip

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2019-10-25 15:12:06 UTC  

go look at any Tony Heller yt video, he's been showing the data tampering for years

2019-10-25 15:12:12 UTC  

its on the frontpage of their hockeystick

2019-10-25 15:12:16 UTC  

page

2019-10-25 15:12:30 UTC  

amazing what youu can find when youu take a copy of original data

2019-10-25 15:12:32 UTC  

Oh the supposed data mixing he cries about?

2019-10-25 15:13:16 UTC  

homogenizing is something else that's laughable;; including low quality data does not increase precision

2019-10-25 15:13:47 UTC  

Do you know that you need to use data mixing to compare co2 levels now co2 levels before? Of course you should try to avoid data mixing but it’s impossible in this circumstance.

2019-10-25 15:13:48 UTC  

so they've added thousands of data points.... from airports!! 😂

2019-10-25 15:14:04 UTC  

urban heat islands

2019-10-25 15:14:19 UTC  

yeah, sure, that won't skew the data at all

2019-10-25 15:14:27 UTC  

I’m not sure if I would take tony hellers word on any of this

2019-10-25 15:14:36 UTC  

don't have to

2019-10-25 15:15:01 UTC  

that's the beautiful thing, it's clear in the data itself

2019-10-25 15:15:14 UTC  

Yeah we can’t do ice core data of co2 levels now. So if you want to compared co2 levels now to millions of years ago how do you do this without data mixing

2019-10-25 15:15:20 UTC  

I've looked at both datasets

2019-10-25 15:15:35 UTC  

the later one has been modified

2019-10-25 15:15:43 UTC  

often with no oversight

2019-10-25 15:16:22 UTC  

data mixing isn’t inherently wrong it should be avoided but if you know that one data is accurate and the other data is accurate you can mix them. Nothing is wrong with this

2019-10-25 15:16:44 UTC  

tbqh I don't care about CO2 levels, it's irrelevant to me. I only care about temp records

2019-10-25 15:17:10 UTC  

Why we can observe the green house effect on a small scale that co2 causes

2019-10-25 15:17:56 UTC  

it doesn't matter how accurate the data is, if it's coming from an airport or other urban heat island it is entirely irrelevant, not just low quality

2019-10-25 15:18:18 UTC  

Earth's atmosphere not small scale though

2019-10-25 15:18:22 UTC  

Idk dude co2 levels we calculate aren’t from airports or urban heat islands

2019-10-25 15:18:36 UTC  

the temp data is

2019-10-25 15:19:00 UTC  

Sure but it proves the green house effect carbon has.

2019-10-25 15:19:19 UTC  

only in a container

2019-10-25 15:19:29 UTC  

on a small scale

2019-10-25 15:19:45 UTC  

Okay so why doesn’t this phenomenon scale?

2019-10-25 15:20:00 UTC  

it doesn't account for the multitude of variables in Earth's climate

2019-10-25 15:20:36 UTC  

it doesn't account for anything other than TSI

2019-10-25 15:21:46 UTC  

and even when it does that, climate science tells us that atmospheric CO2 is more powerful at driving our climate than the sun

2019-10-25 15:21:59 UTC  

it doesn't account for high energy particles

2019-10-25 15:22:15 UTC  

it doesn't account for magnetosphere effects

2019-10-25 15:22:34 UTC  

Sure many of these factors are constant

2019-10-25 15:22:38 UTC  

And don’t change

2019-10-25 15:22:42 UTC  

At least

2019-10-25 15:22:44 UTC  

no.

2019-10-25 15:22:48 UTC  

assumption

2019-10-25 15:23:02 UTC  

From the human perspective

2019-10-25 15:23:29 UTC  

milankovitch cycles

2019-10-25 15:23:29 UTC  

Co2 levels thought out history created drastic change in the temperature