Message from @oojimaflip
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secondarily
how can 3% (human produced CO2) of the total annual flux of CO2 be more potent than the natural 97%?
(3% of 0.04< 97% of 0.04)
how come temps were so high in the early industrial period (low CO2) and so cold in the late industrial period(high CO2)? (1940 vs 1969)
it isnt mroe potent
they can barely calculate the supposed manmade share in temperature change
Okay first off. Just because there is a small percent change. Doesn’t mean it will have a large effect. Nature can only absorb so much of it and adding more doesn’t get absorbed. That’s why it might seem like a small percent but it’s actually big.
how come NASA and NOAA are having to resort to data modification?
Data modification? We modify all data
its cherrypicked data
only if you want to fit it to a model
data is data
I mean you got to show evidence for this
yes i agree data is data
just dont tell people to trust data
science doesnt work if you politicise the data
this ^
and the science process itself
Show me proof nasa cherry picks data
already did
its on the frontpage of their hockeystick
page
amazing what youu can find when youu take a copy of original data
Oh the supposed data mixing he cries about?
homogenizing is something else that's laughable;; including low quality data does not increase precision
Do you know that you need to use data mixing to compare co2 levels now co2 levels before? Of course you should try to avoid data mixing but it’s impossible in this circumstance.
so they've added thousands of data points.... from airports!! 😂
urban heat islands
yeah, sure, that won't skew the data at all
I’m not sure if I would take tony hellers word on any of this
don't have to
that's the beautiful thing, it's clear in the data itself
Yeah we can’t do ice core data of co2 levels now. So if you want to compared co2 levels now to millions of years ago how do you do this without data mixing
I've looked at both datasets
the later one has been modified
often with no oversight
data mixing isn’t inherently wrong it should be avoided but if you know that one data is accurate and the other data is accurate you can mix them. Nothing is wrong with this
tbqh I don't care about CO2 levels, it's irrelevant to me. I only care about temp records
Why we can observe the green house effect on a small scale that co2 causes
it doesn't matter how accurate the data is, if it's coming from an airport or other urban heat island it is entirely irrelevant, not just low quality