Message from @johny1846

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2019-10-25 15:15:35 UTC  

the later one has been modified

2019-10-25 15:15:43 UTC  

often with no oversight

2019-10-25 15:16:22 UTC  

data mixing isn’t inherently wrong it should be avoided but if you know that one data is accurate and the other data is accurate you can mix them. Nothing is wrong with this

2019-10-25 15:16:44 UTC  

tbqh I don't care about CO2 levels, it's irrelevant to me. I only care about temp records

2019-10-25 15:17:10 UTC  

Why we can observe the green house effect on a small scale that co2 causes

2019-10-25 15:17:56 UTC  

it doesn't matter how accurate the data is, if it's coming from an airport or other urban heat island it is entirely irrelevant, not just low quality

2019-10-25 15:18:18 UTC  

Earth's atmosphere not small scale though

2019-10-25 15:18:22 UTC  

Idk dude co2 levels we calculate aren’t from airports or urban heat islands

2019-10-25 15:18:36 UTC  

the temp data is

2019-10-25 15:19:00 UTC  

Sure but it proves the green house effect carbon has.

2019-10-25 15:19:19 UTC  

only in a container

2019-10-25 15:19:29 UTC  

on a small scale

2019-10-25 15:19:45 UTC  

Okay so why doesn’t this phenomenon scale?

2019-10-25 15:20:00 UTC  

it doesn't account for the multitude of variables in Earth's climate

2019-10-25 15:20:36 UTC  

it doesn't account for anything other than TSI

2019-10-25 15:21:46 UTC  

and even when it does that, climate science tells us that atmospheric CO2 is more powerful at driving our climate than the sun

2019-10-25 15:21:59 UTC  

it doesn't account for high energy particles

2019-10-25 15:22:15 UTC  

it doesn't account for magnetosphere effects

2019-10-25 15:22:34 UTC  

Sure many of these factors are constant

2019-10-25 15:22:38 UTC  

And don’t change

2019-10-25 15:22:42 UTC  

At least

2019-10-25 15:22:44 UTC  

no.

2019-10-25 15:22:48 UTC  

assumption

2019-10-25 15:23:02 UTC  

From the human perspective

2019-10-25 15:23:29 UTC  

milankovitch cycles

2019-10-25 15:23:29 UTC  

Co2 levels thought out history created drastic change in the temperature

2019-10-25 15:23:37 UTC  

no

2019-10-25 15:23:42 UTC  

We can see this after the time period you talked about

2019-10-25 15:23:50 UTC  

it was warm in the 1940s

2019-10-25 15:23:59 UTC  

when CO2 was low

2019-10-25 15:24:14 UTC  

it was cold in the 60's-70's

2019-10-25 15:24:20 UTC  

when CO2 was high

2019-10-25 15:24:44 UTC  

except the evidence of these periods is being changed or removed

2019-10-25 15:24:45 UTC  

Okay so in a couple years In the 1940s it was warm and in the 70s it was slightly colder so that means the green house effect isn’t real.

2019-10-25 15:25:16 UTC  

You are the one cherry picking data

2019-10-25 15:25:24 UTC  

rubbish

2019-10-25 15:25:33 UTC  

go look for yourself

2019-10-25 15:25:47 UTC  

if you can find an untainted source

2019-10-25 15:26:25 UTC  

there are emails between climate scientists talking about how problematic the 70's cold period is

2019-10-25 15:26:43 UTC  

We can see historical records of how much change the co2 levels change from plants and volcanoes see the drastic change in temperature and see how it changed.

2019-10-25 15:26:50 UTC  

and how they can massage the data to better fit the trend they want to show