Message from @oojimaflip

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2019-10-25 15:07:34 UTC  

how come temps were so high in the early industrial period (low CO2) and so cold in the late industrial period(high CO2)? (1940 vs 1969)

2019-10-25 15:09:28 UTC  

it isnt mroe potent

2019-10-25 15:09:53 UTC  

they can barely calculate the supposed manmade share in temperature change

2019-10-25 15:09:55 UTC  

Okay first off. Just because there is a small percent change. Doesn’t mean it will have a large effect. Nature can only absorb so much of it and adding more doesn’t get absorbed. That’s why it might seem like a small percent but it’s actually big.

2019-10-25 15:09:59 UTC  

how come NASA and NOAA are having to resort to data modification?

2019-10-25 15:10:16 UTC  

Data modification? We modify all data

2019-10-25 15:10:31 UTC  

its cherrypicked data

2019-10-25 15:10:34 UTC  

only if you want to fit it to a model

2019-10-25 15:10:38 UTC  

data is data

2019-10-25 15:10:44 UTC  

I mean you got to show evidence for this

2019-10-25 15:10:46 UTC  

yes i agree data is data

2019-10-25 15:10:55 UTC  

just dont tell people to trust data

2019-10-25 15:11:04 UTC  

science doesnt work if you politicise the data

2019-10-25 15:11:11 UTC  

this ^

2019-10-25 15:11:11 UTC  

and the science process itself

2019-10-25 15:11:31 UTC  

Show me proof nasa cherry picks data

2019-10-25 15:11:58 UTC  

already did

2019-10-25 15:12:06 UTC  

go look at any Tony Heller yt video, he's been showing the data tampering for years

2019-10-25 15:12:12 UTC  

its on the frontpage of their hockeystick

2019-10-25 15:12:16 UTC  

page

2019-10-25 15:12:30 UTC  

amazing what youu can find when youu take a copy of original data

2019-10-25 15:12:32 UTC  

Oh the supposed data mixing he cries about?

2019-10-25 15:13:16 UTC  

homogenizing is something else that's laughable;; including low quality data does not increase precision

2019-10-25 15:13:47 UTC  

Do you know that you need to use data mixing to compare co2 levels now co2 levels before? Of course you should try to avoid data mixing but it’s impossible in this circumstance.

2019-10-25 15:13:48 UTC  

so they've added thousands of data points.... from airports!! 😂

2019-10-25 15:14:04 UTC  

urban heat islands

2019-10-25 15:14:19 UTC  

yeah, sure, that won't skew the data at all

2019-10-25 15:14:27 UTC  

I’m not sure if I would take tony hellers word on any of this

2019-10-25 15:14:36 UTC  

don't have to

2019-10-25 15:15:01 UTC  

that's the beautiful thing, it's clear in the data itself

2019-10-25 15:15:14 UTC  

Yeah we can’t do ice core data of co2 levels now. So if you want to compared co2 levels now to millions of years ago how do you do this without data mixing

2019-10-25 15:15:20 UTC  

I've looked at both datasets

2019-10-25 15:15:35 UTC  

the later one has been modified

2019-10-25 15:15:43 UTC  

often with no oversight

2019-10-25 15:16:22 UTC  

data mixing isn’t inherently wrong it should be avoided but if you know that one data is accurate and the other data is accurate you can mix them. Nothing is wrong with this

2019-10-25 15:16:44 UTC  

tbqh I don't care about CO2 levels, it's irrelevant to me. I only care about temp records

2019-10-25 15:17:10 UTC  

Why we can observe the green house effect on a small scale that co2 causes

2019-10-25 15:17:56 UTC  

it doesn't matter how accurate the data is, if it's coming from an airport or other urban heat island it is entirely irrelevant, not just low quality

2019-10-25 15:18:18 UTC  

Earth's atmosphere not small scale though

2019-10-25 15:18:22 UTC  

Idk dude co2 levels we calculate aren’t from airports or urban heat islands

2019-10-25 15:18:36 UTC  

the temp data is