you discuss politics for what can be done

not what is a fantasy that will never happen

the point is not dying fuast

you'¨re not writing a fantasy novel

The modern democratic state will probably collapse anyway

"read a book which I haven't actually read which I think ***might*** disagree with historical statistics about a prohibition event using purely ideological reasoning"

the point of politics is to partake in achievable methods of human organization that are actually practical

@Nerthulas How would you know? You haven't read it.

no, you explain to me why prohibition of something will increase its consumption

And yes, your data is trash. Accept it.

we're not in politics you junkie

you don't even know, and you're using it to make an argument

His data is accurate

politics is a means

You not liking it doesn't determine it's accuracy

that was ***one*** study

Name some good anime I haven't seen

conceptually, its not even possible that it could not be reduced

its stops being a means the second it is no longer a tool for us

second of all

@TheUserNameofPeace Black Clover, assuming you are okay with some childishness

we have other cases than american prohibition of alcohol

countless

I'll check it out @Fénius Farsaid

@Leaf Okay, prove it.

You may or may not like it

It is hit or miss

particularly the one we've been talking about, Russia's 42% decrease in consumption

i'll say this agian, he will just refuse it until you convince him emotionally

Ok one seond

this position is not a logical one

second

it's an emotion

feels over reals

you can ltiearlly see it, no matter what you say, he'll just keep saying "but I want x"

conceptually, its not even ***possible*** that it does not decrease, or increases consumption

its impossible completely

the book you're talking about probably does not even make that argument

"Research conducted by the Ministry of Health regarding the consumption of tobacco influenced both public education and state policy; in reflection of the discoveries of the administration's health department, considerable measures were taken to curtail the consumption of tobacco. These measures included prohibitions on the sale of tobacco to minors, of smoking in public areas and within the armed forces, restrictions on the advertisement of tobacco products. Additionally, several tobacco advertising and manufacturing companies were forcibly closed by the state. These measures, while successful in some regards, were limited in their effeciacy by the Second World War. Nonetheless, the daily tobacco intake of the average serviceman was reduced by 25% and prohibitions on smoking in public were effective in eliminating the consumption of tobacco among a majority of minors." @Weaboo Kempeitai

but makes other ones

I cannot speak for @Weaboo Kempeitai, but when I was an ancap my position(s) was not dictated by emotion, but by a priori reasoning. This is the case with almost every libertarian. It's philosophical for them, not practical.