Message from @Nerthulas
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it is a government which passed a law
They did exactly the same thing and represent the population in exactly the same sense
it has nothing to do with voluntarism
the law is enforceable by state power
@vicmaxim If by "means in itself" you are referring to ideological positions as purely instinctual, I would say you are half correct. People that tend to drift around servers like this and discuss politics, philosophy, etc. significantly more deeply than the average person are more likely to be convinced one way or another if the underlying principles of their ideology are challenged enough.
@Fénius Farsaid look dont serve the ideology
that's all im saying
@Leaf A small town or community can be entirely made up of voluntary participants. A federal government by necessity must disallow any secession.
Ima sleep now
Problem?
Man will continue to serve his ideas. We always have and we always will.
man continues to serve man not ideas
specifically the white man
nature's miracle
the white race
There are few individuals who are capable of serving their own interests above their own conceived ideas of the world. The rest are followers.
@Weaboo Kempeitai its not voluntary
the laws are enforceable by state power
It can be
Is the point.
Even among the white race
It can be
whether it can be is irrelevant
we're talking about the real world
@Fénius Farsaid they follow the leader not the idea
dry towns are not voluntary arrangements
as a libertarian
you oppose them
They follow the idea of their leader. Their idealistic conception of them.
The absolutely are.
I'm talking towns of tens of thousands not a few hundred
The local government could secede from the federal government and function exactly the same as it currently does.
no, a resident could not build a building with his own money, and sell it to a company which turns it into a tavern
Even instinctual hedonists follow their ideas, as in their conception of the pleasure of sex, or food, etc.
that is not voluntary
lol most municipal and county/state/department/provincial governments in most countries derive a great deal of their revenue from the federal government
@Fénius Farsaid the idea counts for nothing is the people who are following the leader do not see somthing in the leader that they see in themselves. They see the potential not the potential of the idea
it is a criminalization of mutual arrangements enforced by state power
pure and simple
@Nerthulas What?