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and he micromanaged all sorts of details
including things like mobilizing the army for war
same thing for other Emperors like Hongwu and Yongle, during the Ming Dynasty
well I'm sure there are many traffickers out there. I'm still learning the story
in fact neither Hongwu or Yongle ever had a prime minister
in China it is customary for everything to be one giant apparatus or bureaucracy
with the various ministers acting like an extension of the Emperor
usually when ministers had their own say
it was a sign that the state was doing badly 😄
@Weaboo Kempeitai u can look at other causes tho
ut oh
and/or that the Emperor was an incompetent
like for instance, you could look at the population pressure or the speed of transfer of information
the postindustrial changes were pretty wild
yes that is another aspect
Chinese Emperors had monopoly on information
so I wouldn't chalk anything up to just being 'the system'
and kept extensive records, to an autistic level
also, these societies regularly collapsed, idk why you associate monarchies with stability
it was said that the census conducted by Qin Shi Huangdi could tell every detail about millions of subjects
seeing as this was in like 200 BC it is actually really impressive
there was an average of like a civil war every century
" It does not matter is the cat is white or black as long as it catches the mice " is what I think Deng Xiaoping said
for these societies
@Nerthulas tbh I don't think it was other causes, it was absolutely the Socialist system, which exasperates environmental pressures like population or poor harvest. No Socialist state is full-Socialist anymore, most inevitably transition to decentralisation and market economies out of necessity, North Korea is undergoing that transition right now.
market economies yes, decentralization no
Darth does this all day
JF's debating Darth Dawkins guys
they are basically transitioning to the prerevolutionary system lol
And Darth is in full aggression mode
On evolution and theism
wherein there is a central government with absolute power presiding over a market economy
Okay, can you answer my question. Why do communist dictators attempt to control every factor of society, and inevitably fuck up? Why don't Monarchs attempt the same? What's their incentive not to?
I don't see it on the search, but is episode 560 hidden or some such? I can't seem to find it on you tube or bitchute. I couldn't find anyone talking about it on the Search function around here.
@JFGariepy Darth is talking duelism
"Creator/Creation distinction"
in China it was customary to issue commands and have people follow
the symbol of authority is the axe
oh can you throw out the link?