where as in China it was the exact opposite, where the Emperor exercised direct power

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that's why I wouldn't call Japan an Absolute Monarchy tbh

so for Mao it might be a cultural reason as well

if you look up say Qin Shi Huangdi

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he basically did everything himself

Okay, I said they lasted for centuries. I didn't say they never collapsed. China isn't Socialist anymore. Soviet Union stopped being Socialist long before it collapsed. My point is, you give Communist dictators absolute power, they run shit into the ground. Why did Monarchs never go full commie, and centralise everything? And run shit into the ground? What was their main incentive to delegate tasks to others, give people more breathing room?

and he micromanaged all sorts of details

including things like mobilizing the army for war

same thing for other Emperors like Hongwu and Yongle, during the Ming Dynasty

well I'm sure there are many traffickers out there. I'm still learning the story

in fact neither Hongwu or Yongle ever had a prime minister

in China it is customary for everything to be one giant apparatus or bureaucracy

with the various ministers acting like an extension of the Emperor

usually when ministers had their own say

it was a sign that the state was doing badly 😄

@Weaboo Kempeitai u can look at other causes tho

ut oh

and/or that the Emperor was an incompetent

@SPQR from new mm?

like for instance, you could look at the population pressure or the speed of transfer of information

the postindustrial changes were pretty wild

yes that is another aspect

Chinese Emperors had monopoly on information

so I wouldn't chalk anything up to just being 'the system'

and kept extensive records, to an autistic level

also, these societies regularly collapsed, idk why you associate monarchies with stability

it was said that the census conducted by Qin Shi Huangdi could tell every detail about millions of subjects

seeing as this was in like 200 BC it is actually really impressive

there was an average of like a civil war every century

" It does not matter is the cat is white or black as long as it catches the mice " is what I think Deng Xiaoping said

for these societies

@Nerthulas tbh I don't think it was other causes, it was absolutely the Socialist system, which exasperates environmental pressures like population or poor harvest. No Socialist state is full-Socialist anymore, most inevitably transition to decentralisation and market economies out of necessity, North Korea is undergoing that transition right now.

market economies yes, decentralization no

Darth does this all day

JF's debating Darth Dawkins guys

they are basically transitioning to the prerevolutionary system lol

And Darth is in full aggression mode