Message from @fuguer
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even the questions he ask are based implicitly on his religious worldview
does god have red hair?
can you answer yes or no to that
its a nonsense question if you dont accept god
in science we speak of hypotheses, and we falsify them
Jedis were non reproductive entities that wanted to suppress all human feeling.
god's bald
we NEVER speak of universal truths
in logic some statements are neither true or false
some are indeterminate, some are true but unprovably so
Explain an unprovable truth
It seems universalistic to me
You can look up Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, Godel sentence, Tarski's undefinability theorem, and Turing and Church's work.
Hmm
Thanks
basically you can create statements so complex they cant be proven true or false, ever
but they can nevertheless definitely be true or false
the thing is,
it is within the real of possibility that there is a creator god, who "started the machine" essentially flicked a switch and lit the big bang, let the universe unroll etc..
That still doesn't mean that the christian god is the one who did it..
Cthulhu is as probably as yahweh
Right
and if god exists and created the universe, then evolution could be his mechanism for creation
i dont see a necessary contradiction
if you can have logical paradoxes, you can have unprovably true statements.
It's also mathematically equivalent to the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem)
The halting problem means, if you have the code for a program, can you guarantee if it will finish in finite time or run forever
And Turing proved its not possible.
These problems are beautiful because theyre all the same problem seen a different way
a logical symmetry if you will
ConvertEveryoneToIslam.exe
that programwill finish in finite time
with the death of the human race
Infidel
Convert2Islam(*this)
The thing with arguing the existence of god is that god doesn’t physically exist on the material plane.
It’s basically trying to use empirical means to prove the ephemeral
right just debating gods existence is pointless
Or let me rephrase, he doesn’t exist in material plane, so using material means to prove god’s existence is useless
Right
It’s so 2007 lol
Imagine still debating atheism vs theism in 2019
you can debate, is there any evidence of god's actions that show we can't exclude the hypothesis of god's existence
JF nailed it on universality, these logic-cucks dont even understand logic