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2019-10-28 08:32:46 UTC  

You don't pick Sith. Sith picks you.

2019-10-28 08:32:57 UTC  

Dawkins would be grey Jedi, I assume

2019-10-28 08:34:16 UTC  

In the Star Wars world, the Jedi are anti nature hippie psychopaths.

2019-10-28 08:34:30 UTC  

this guy is like the worst debater ever

2019-10-28 08:34:42 UTC  

you cant debate just asking questions like you're playing 20 questions

2019-10-28 08:34:53 UTC  

then force peopel to answer yes or no to nonsensical questions

2019-10-28 08:35:24 UTC  

I wonder if the jedi also have tunnels under the schools where they hide younglings

2019-10-28 08:35:39 UTC  

His entire argument rested on the belief in God.

2019-10-28 08:35:52 UTC  

They couldn't even get to the evolution part of the debate.

2019-10-28 08:36:06 UTC  

hes the perfect embodiness of what i despise about hardcore christians

2019-10-28 08:36:17 UTC  

even the questions he ask are based implicitly on his religious worldview

2019-10-28 08:36:30 UTC  

does god have red hair?

2019-10-28 08:36:35 UTC  

can you answer yes or no to that

2019-10-28 08:36:42 UTC  

its a nonsense question if you dont accept god

2019-10-28 08:36:54 UTC  

in science we speak of hypotheses, and we falsify them

2019-10-28 08:36:54 UTC  

Jedis were non reproductive entities that wanted to suppress all human feeling.

2019-10-28 08:36:57 UTC  

god's bald

2019-10-28 08:37:17 UTC  

we NEVER speak of universal truths

2019-10-28 08:37:56 UTC  

in logic some statements are neither true or false

2019-10-28 08:38:13 UTC  

some are indeterminate, some are true but unprovably so

2019-10-28 08:39:43 UTC  

Explain an unprovable truth
It seems universalistic to me

2019-10-28 08:41:28 UTC  

You can look up Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, Godel sentence, Tarski's undefinability theorem, and Turing and Church's work.

2019-10-28 08:41:44 UTC  

Hmm
Thanks

2019-10-28 08:42:17 UTC  

basically you can create statements so complex they cant be proven true or false, ever

2019-10-28 08:42:41 UTC  

but they can nevertheless definitely be true or false

2019-10-28 08:42:54 UTC  

the thing is,
it is within the real of possibility that there is a creator god, who "started the machine" essentially flicked a switch and lit the big bang, let the universe unroll etc..
That still doesn't mean that the christian god is the one who did it..
Cthulhu is as probably as yahweh

2019-10-28 08:43:04 UTC  

Right

2019-10-28 08:43:28 UTC  

and if god exists and created the universe, then evolution could be his mechanism for creation

2019-10-28 08:43:34 UTC  

i dont see a necessary contradiction

2019-10-28 08:45:01 UTC  

These concepts are all closely related, Russell's set paradox, Richard's paradox, liar's paradox.

2019-10-28 08:45:27 UTC  

if you can have logical paradoxes, you can have unprovably true statements.

2019-10-28 08:45:56 UTC  

It's also mathematically equivalent to the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem)

2019-10-28 08:46:32 UTC  

The halting problem means, if you have the code for a program, can you guarantee if it will finish in finite time or run forever

2019-10-28 08:46:52 UTC  

And Turing proved its not possible.

2019-10-28 08:47:16 UTC  

These problems are beautiful because theyre all the same problem seen a different way

2019-10-28 08:47:32 UTC  

a logical symmetry if you will

2019-10-28 08:48:08 UTC  

ConvertEveryoneToIslam.exe

2019-10-28 08:48:22 UTC  

that programwill finish in finite time

2019-10-28 08:48:26 UTC  

with the death of the human race

2019-10-28 08:49:08 UTC  

Infidel