Message from @TheUserNameofPeace
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It's pretty obvious actually considering we have been breeding animals and plants (and prob humans too) for over ten thousand years with great success
twin adoption studies
@BabygottBach yes
still score the same..
sociological effects
@BabygottBach but can you explain why the twins are always more alike in intelligence than their non-related siblings
kraut already explained twin studies are useless unless you precisely understand the genetic mechanisms
Separated twins perform similiarly
Raised separated
sociological effects are the answer @TheUserNameofPeace ?
Sociological effects
yep
How do you know
no
what sociological effect causes twins to be 80% alike in intelligence? @BabygottBach
can you tell me?
until you debunk the sociological effect hypothesis, you're just arguing god of the gaps
thats liyerally your argument
It's fascinating how mirrored the two positions are.
I ask for the genetic molecular mechanisms, I get accused of god of the gaps
I just want you to explain why the twins perform so similarly @BabygottBach
it seems like you're squirming
Then you do exactly the same thing with the twin studies
```"We were surprised by certain behaviors that showed a genetic influence, such as religiosity [and] social attitudes," said Nancy Segal, an evolutionary psychologist at California State University, Fullerton, who was part of the study for nine years. "Those surprised us, because we thought those certainly must come from the family [environment]," Segal told Live Science. Segal described the groundbreaking research on Aug. 7 here at a meeting of the American Psychological Association.```
It's not just IQ
You are arguing from god of the gaps.
no, you don't understand
We explained it many times
nerthulas is my bf
We focus on IQ because it's important and we have a lot of data
"I need to see the quarks interacting for it to be true"
this guy
It's disposition
Social factors
Everything
Your argument against sociology is literally that you lack the the abiity to come up with a mechanism.
if your position were more likely, we'd expect the people raised together to be more alike than the twins raised apart, but we see exactly the opposite, and we see it very strongly @BabygottBach
bf above
You blanketly deny the most likely solution to say muh sociology