Message from @TheUserNameofPeace
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@Deleted User, nope
@BabygottBach get in vc
ok but the environments are different so why are the twins performing the same across measures and studies @BabygottBach
I dont trust either side with no knowledge
can you please explain this to me
At this glance, it seems like there's a huge debate between two camps
I just want you to explain why the twins perform the same
Do you think parents treat twins exactly the same?
The overarching point is that there are variances and I don't give a fuck exactly how they exist 😆
Sociology TM
well, its consistent across all measures and studies
Look up the twin niching effect, @Nerthulas
but its consistent across ***all*** twin studies
Sexual reproduction causes the shuffling around (recombination) which breaks the epistasis so it actually isn't the death toll for heritability estimates or quantitative genetics
Maybe there's a consistent sociological effect, @Nerthulas?
if they didn't treat them the same, wouldn't that make them score differently?
A confounding sociological variable.
that's the opposit eof the claim
but its different from the other siblings @BabygottBach
"Parent may treat their twins differently by 1/10,000th of a degree, therefore ambiguity on heritability
so they are more alike to each other than to people they share environment with
omg you guys are still at it
can you explain this?
@TheUserNameofPeace, where's the evidence for how close the parents treat their twins?
It's pretty obvious actually considering we have been breeding animals and plants (and prob humans too) for over ten thousand years with great success
twin adoption studies
@BabygottBach yes
still score the same..
sociological effects
@BabygottBach but can you explain why the twins are always more alike in intelligence than their non-related siblings
kraut already explained twin studies are useless unless you precisely understand the genetic mechanisms
Separated twins perform similiarly
Raised separated
sociological effects are the answer @TheUserNameofPeace ?
Sociological effects
yep
How do you know
no
what sociological effect causes twins to be 80% alike in intelligence? @BabygottBach
can you tell me?