Twins raised apart being so much more similar to one another than another random set of people or the twin compared with another random sample from his own group utterly wrecks your entire position @BabygottBach

He did

what molecules do these genes code for, @Nerthulas ?

hahahah

and that sociological effect affects twins hundreds of miles apart to be similar @BabygottBach

?

how do these molecules interact with IQ?

see he used the kraut line

FIND THE GENES BIGOT

@Nerthulas, sure.

"There may be"

Don't humor him

we need to have complete molecular understanding of every gene expression before we can accept twin studies

He's being sarcastic i think

these guys are stamped off a factory or something

We've stacked up a mountain of evidence and he's brought faith-based arguments

I'm sorry, how do you know these genes have any causal relation to IQ?

i dont think so

@fuguer, just like I need to have complete sociological understanding before I reject twin studies?

so some unknown sociological effect causes twins raised in different environments to be 80% similar with respect to intelligence, and much more similar to each other in intelligence than people they were raised with and shared an environment with @BabygottBach ?

what a hypocrite you are

No you need to have any iota of proof

can you just tell me if that's your position?

Which uou have provided exactly none

No smart black population ever in the history of man, with a massive variance in enviroment

@Nerthulas, I've proven that there ARE sociological studies that show social effects for IQ.

@BabygottBach this one please

I'm just not familiar with them

You also aren't

if you're picking and choosing what scientific studies to accept and they happen to all align with your worldview, then you're not intellectually honest

No one here is

no I'm not talking about social causes of IQ

you're just like a climate denier

You equate an imcomplete understanding with a void understanding

please understand

@fuguer, have you read the sociological studies?

I'm asking you to explain the similarity of twins with respect to this

>these studies I never read say something that validates my worldview

No, you've come in to disprove and downgrade the heritability factor of IQ

That's what you came in with

I'm not asking you if sociological factors can influence IQ, please understand that @BabygottBach