Message from @stem

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2019-10-31 15:19:04 UTC  

It's a completely irrational stance though

2019-10-31 15:19:23 UTC  

I have never understood why Israel is so important to some americans

2019-10-31 15:19:33 UTC  

but you have

2019-10-31 15:19:38 UTC  

money

2019-10-31 15:19:40 UTC  

Geopolitically sure, it's a nice military base to go invade oil rich countries, perhaps?

2019-10-31 15:19:57 UTC  

and other levers of power

2019-10-31 15:20:03 UTC  

But yes, other than that the only reason I can imagine is that the actors are paid to promote it

2019-10-31 15:20:15 UTC  

But I don't recognize that as a rational stance, merely a bought one

2019-10-31 15:20:17 UTC  

also politicians, think tanks, etc.

2019-10-31 15:20:23 UTC  

they are well networked

2019-10-31 15:21:03 UTC  

everything rests on a pile of irrationality

2019-10-31 15:21:06 UTC  

always has

2019-10-31 15:21:15 UTC  

and must

2019-10-31 15:21:34 UTC  

If that's how you truly feel, why not just kill yourself?

2019-10-31 15:21:41 UTC  

because i'm irrational

2019-10-31 15:22:01 UTC  

No, because you have some sense of rationality

2019-10-31 15:22:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639484230153535518/unknown.png

2019-10-31 15:22:14 UTC  

Don't try to squirm away with "but it's all like, meaningless bro"

2019-10-31 15:22:19 UTC  

irrationality could lead you to kill yourself or not

2019-10-31 15:22:25 UTC  

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2019-10-31 15:22:26 UTC  

rationality can't lead you to do anything

2019-10-31 15:22:38 UTC  

POPlitics

2019-10-31 15:22:39 UTC  

(without some irrationality)

2019-10-31 15:23:29 UTC  

@JFGariepy please review an episode of POPlitics when it is available

2019-10-31 15:23:30 UTC  

When I say "irrational stance" I mean it's not one you can reasonably defend with arguments based on the self-interests of the nation

2019-10-31 15:23:52 UTC  

I thought it was obvious based on us talking about political stances, but maybe it's worth clarifying

2019-10-31 15:23:55 UTC  

the individual actors in the system that results in support for israel are acting rationally to some extent

2019-10-31 15:24:03 UTC  

Which nation?

2019-10-31 15:24:19 UTC  

If you get paid to push a stance, "I got $500 from my rabbi" is not a rational argument for why Israel is our greatest ally

2019-10-31 15:24:28 UTC  

Alhamdulillah

2019-10-31 15:24:39 UTC  

Epstein is

2019-10-31 15:24:42 UTC  

they are acting rationally

2019-10-31 15:24:48 UTC  

i didn't say they are saying rational things

2019-10-31 15:25:17 UTC  

they don't just get pushed

2019-10-31 15:25:27 UTC  

they also face possible punishment

2019-10-31 15:25:52 UTC  

they get rewards and are also very fearful

2019-10-31 15:25:55 UTC  

I don't care for whatever personal miseries cause them to push irrational politics on me

2019-10-31 15:26:01 UTC  

Literally could not care less