Message from @Nerthulas
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there is a difference between positive statements about what is true, which describe reality, and statements of preference - when you say grounded, do you mean that it is something which would make statements about preference/normative statements true, descriptors of reality @Hector
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We have subjective and objective lived experience
I am sorry @Deleted User its gonna be hard to address your because @Nerthulas can't see you
if one statement can be true for two people its objective.
All you need to disprove his argument is prove that more than one person can share a truth
simply more than one.
Well of course more that one person can share a truth @Deleted User
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLdqKIj3-A0
I forgotted, there's good stuff on YT
Objective doesn't require universal agreement it requires agreement apart from the individual to more than one.
tbh, i behaved like an african my last year of trick-or-treating - 8th grade
i was better before that though, i swear
@StRexPowerColt I'm saying that the human perspective is the only one which can be taken, that there is no need to refer to a cosmic consciousness to explain the existence of numbers and patters, that reference to our own consciousnesses is the only thing which is required (and the only thing which can be said conclusively) as to why we observe these universal patterns
Thus objective can exist and coexist with the subjective.
Thats just not true @Nerthulas because if something besides humanity shared its perspective with us then what?
I don't think the best way to talk about morality is in terms of 'subjective vs objective' but 'normative vs positive'
@StRexPowerColt what do you mean, you mean like animals?
Universality is not a necessary trait of objectivism.... It can just be more than one person - there are degrees of objective.
Yes @Nerthulas or anything sentient that could communicate with us for that matter.
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ultimately we only have direct access to our own perspective, but we observe other things which we think function more or less like we do, on a continuum from animals to humans - what is the point of bringing this up?
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who's got the webm of the chink shaking at the arcade surrounded by females
@Nerthulas busy right now, can we continue this another time?
even acknowledging their existence can only be done from your perspective
sure, Helton
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hewwo
Do you recognize that other individuals exist and are sentient, as you are @Nerthulas
here you go billy
any coomers yet_
*Tips fedora*
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