Message from @M'beke

Discord ID: 640228739996844038


2019-11-02 16:35:30 UTC  

@StRexPowerColt I'm saying that the human perspective is the only one which can be taken, that there is no need to refer to a cosmic consciousness to explain the existence of numbers and patters, that reference to our own consciousnesses is the only thing which is required (and the only thing which can be said conclusively) as to why we observe these universal patterns

2019-11-02 16:35:38 UTC  

Thus objective can exist and coexist with the subjective.

2019-11-02 16:36:42 UTC  

Thats just not true @Nerthulas because if something besides humanity shared its perspective with us then what?

2019-11-02 16:36:47 UTC  

I don't think the best way to talk about morality is in terms of 'subjective vs objective' but 'normative vs positive'

2019-11-02 16:37:19 UTC  

@StRexPowerColt what do you mean, you mean like animals?

2019-11-02 16:37:33 UTC  

Universality is not a necessary trait of objectivism.... It can just be more than one person - there are degrees of objective.

2019-11-02 16:37:48 UTC  

the word is used different ways, yeah

2019-11-02 16:38:24 UTC  

Yes @Nerthulas or anything sentient that could communicate with us for that matter.

2019-11-02 16:38:35 UTC  

<:honkpilled:558686758875824130> <:Gun:639978512207314973> <:AngryNPC:639979462976602133>

2019-11-02 16:39:21 UTC  

HERRO

2019-11-02 16:39:23 UTC  

<:Banjod:639988401176707112>

2019-11-02 16:39:32 UTC  

<:powerful:639994936070242315>

2019-11-02 16:39:32 UTC  

ultimately we only have direct access to our own perspective, but we observe other things which we think function more or less like we do, on a continuum from animals to humans - what is the point of bringing this up?

2019-11-02 16:39:38 UTC  

<:spurdo:640003428290134026>

2019-11-02 16:39:39 UTC  

<:Banjod:639988401176707112> <:Gun:639978512207314973> <:Str3tch:639979203890249758>

2019-11-02 16:39:44 UTC  

who's got the webm of the chink shaking at the arcade surrounded by females

2019-11-02 16:39:51 UTC  

@Nerthulas busy right now, can we continue this another time?

2019-11-02 16:39:57 UTC  

even acknowledging their existence can only be done from your perspective

2019-11-02 16:40:01 UTC  

sure, Helton

2019-11-02 16:40:24 UTC  

<:slav:640046833200267284>

2019-11-02 16:40:26 UTC  

hewwo

2019-11-02 16:40:31 UTC  

Do you recognize that other individuals exist and are sentient, as you are @Nerthulas

2019-11-02 16:40:54 UTC  

here you go billy

2019-11-02 16:41:09 UTC  

any coomers yet_

2019-11-02 16:41:12 UTC  

*Tips fedora*

2019-11-02 16:41:46 UTC  

tromm

2019-11-02 16:41:49 UTC  

<:steflol:561214382181318656>

2019-11-02 16:41:50 UTC  

not yet <:towelsweat:552805059042344960>

2019-11-02 16:41:56 UTC  

PPl need to understand that objectivity as a term is a a term that exists post conceding the fact that the thing labeled objective is perceived by you

2019-11-02 16:41:57 UTC  

how can you lose this fast

2019-11-02 16:41:57 UTC  

@StRexPowerColt yes, but you have a privileged perspective, you only have access to knowledge of their existence from your own - take this for instance - a cat can see and to some degree understand a human, but does not have a human perspective or information processing matrix

2019-11-02 16:41:58 UTC  

this is just

2019-11-02 16:42:02 UTC  

unless sexual emergency

2019-11-02 16:42:04 UTC  

discord autism

2019-11-02 16:42:07 UTC  

some say the first 3 days or so are the hardest

2019-11-02 16:42:08 UTC  

wait, who lost?

2019-11-02 16:42:11 UTC  

did somebody lose?

2019-11-02 16:42:12 UTC  

I think after the 7 day mark, its easy

2019-11-02 16:42:13 UTC  

yo mum is a sexual emergency

2019-11-02 16:42:16 UTC  

they are sayin gtrommm lost