"do your own research"

so basically you have no source

and most of the people in the army wouldn't get the land because there was no land to be given

which is why they had to conquer foreign countries in the first place

to give them that land

there was steady expansion during the republic

yes, which was supported by the POPULARES

and the Optimates were largely isolationist

who said Carthago delenda est?

lmao

that's right

btfo poputard

Cato the Elder

exactly

um... Cato the Elder lived before the Gracchus brothers did

That philosophy was conservative

expanding

the cold war syndrome boomer was dead before the Populares were even a thing

it started with Cato the elder, but it entered optimates thought

through the younger, the problem was internal conflicts created by rabble stymie expansion

Cato the Elder was more in favor of wiping out Carthage than colonizing it

the only reason he wanted the Third Punic War was cause he thought Carthage was a threat to Rome

there was a desire to conquer land around the mediterranean

literal Cold War boomer

to create a contiguous trade

area

that's when the term mare nostrum arose

I'm pretty sure Cato never used the term Mare Nostrum

need

"The term mare nostrum originally was used by Romans to refer to the Tyrrhenian Sea, following their conquest of Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica during the Punic Wars with Carthage. "

@TuerSchlossEnteiser This looks like a more futuristic delorean tbh

okay, first of all, that is never associated with Cato the Elder

I like stainless steel cars though, they look aesthetic.

it's associated with romans in general

and second that is way earlier than Cato

Cato literally appointed scipio to deploy to sicily

what is your point?

https://youtu.be/0oV4IVy8tvE?t=70

timestamp

so Cato told Scipio to go to Sicily and then Africa, therefore he used the term Mare Nostrum?

my point is that there's on evidence to suggest optimates didn't want to expand the empire