Message from @Daddy

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2019-11-24 16:38:04 UTC  

muh senate

2019-11-24 16:38:05 UTC  

no

2019-11-24 16:38:14 UTC  

most people gained land after serving in the military

2019-11-24 16:38:30 UTC  

you just needed to not be a degenerate to join the military

2019-11-24 16:38:34 UTC  

it was, you had entire Patrician families that were impoverished and forced to live in apartments in the city center

2019-11-24 16:38:47 UTC  

and which lost all of their land to other wealthy aristocrats

2019-11-24 16:38:54 UTC  

source

2019-11-24 16:38:58 UTC  

sounds like bullshit

2019-11-24 16:39:00 UTC  

muh balls

2019-11-24 16:39:06 UTC  

do your own research

2019-11-24 16:39:08 UTC  

lmao

2019-11-24 16:39:10 UTC  

ask for source

2019-11-24 16:39:15 UTC  

"do your own research"

2019-11-24 16:39:23 UTC  

so basically you have no source

2019-11-24 16:39:27 UTC  

and most of the people in the army wouldn't get the land because there was no land to be given

2019-11-24 16:39:36 UTC  

which is why they had to conquer foreign countries in the first place

2019-11-24 16:39:39 UTC  

to give them that land

2019-11-24 16:39:43 UTC  

there was steady expansion during the republic

2019-11-24 16:39:53 UTC  

yes, which was supported by the POPULARES

2019-11-24 16:40:01 UTC  

and the Optimates were largely isolationist

2019-11-24 16:40:02 UTC  

who said Carthago delenda est?

2019-11-24 16:40:03 UTC  

lmao

2019-11-24 16:40:08 UTC  

that's right

2019-11-24 16:40:16 UTC  

btfo poputard

2019-11-24 16:40:17 UTC  

Cato the Elder

2019-11-24 16:40:19 UTC  

exactly

2019-11-24 16:41:08 UTC  

um... Cato the Elder lived before the Gracchus brothers did

2019-11-24 16:41:21 UTC  

That philosophy was conservative

2019-11-24 16:41:24 UTC  

expanding

2019-11-24 16:41:31 UTC  

the cold war syndrome boomer was dead before the Populares were even a thing

2019-11-24 16:41:36 UTC  

it started with Cato the elder, but it entered optimates thought

2019-11-24 16:41:56 UTC  

through the younger, the problem was internal conflicts created by rabble stymie expansion

2019-11-24 16:44:11 UTC  

Cato the Elder was more in favor of wiping out Carthage than colonizing it

2019-11-24 16:44:30 UTC  

the only reason he wanted the Third Punic War was cause he thought Carthage was a threat to Rome

2019-11-24 16:44:34 UTC  

there was a desire to conquer land around the mediterranean

2019-11-24 16:44:35 UTC  

literal Cold War boomer

2019-11-24 16:44:38 UTC  

to create a contiguous trade

2019-11-24 16:44:42 UTC  

area

2019-11-24 16:45:13 UTC  

that's when the term mare nostrum arose

2019-11-24 16:47:48 UTC  

I'm pretty sure Cato never used the term Mare Nostrum

2019-11-24 16:49:25 UTC  

need

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