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That philosophy was conservative
expanding
the cold war syndrome boomer was dead before the Populares were even a thing
it started with Cato the elder, but it entered optimates thought
through the younger, the problem was internal conflicts created by rabble stymie expansion
Cato the Elder was more in favor of wiping out Carthage than colonizing it
the only reason he wanted the Third Punic War was cause he thought Carthage was a threat to Rome
there was a desire to conquer land around the mediterranean
literal Cold War boomer
to create a contiguous trade
area
that's when the term mare nostrum arose
I'm pretty sure Cato never used the term Mare Nostrum
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"The term mare nostrum originally was used by Romans to refer to the Tyrrhenian Sea, following their conquest of Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica during the Punic Wars with Carthage. "
@TuerSchlossEnteiser This looks like a more futuristic delorean tbh
okay, first of all, that is never associated with Cato the Elder
I like stainless steel cars though, they look aesthetic.
it's associated with romans in general
and second that is way earlier than Cato
what is your point?
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so Cato told Scipio to go to Sicily and then Africa, therefore he used the term Mare Nostrum?
my point is that there's on evidence to suggest optimates didn't want to expand the empire
therefore he was one of the Optimates?
therefore he wanted to distribute Punic lands to Roman plebs?
the philosophy of optimates was based on that cohort
he wanted to populate it with roman citizens, preferably ones who served is my assumption
@Daddy did you ask supreme daddy for confirmation of the #7 being anything other than a concept yet?
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yea
what are you talking about
you would believe him if he confirmed it
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ok
I'm wondering if you had yet
what are you actually talking about
about how the other day you and others believed the #7 could be a physical object
How long ago was this?