Abortion is killing another life form, but that life form belongs to the parents.

only karmic justice

OH, CALI WAGE SLAVE,
ALWAYS DEPRAVED
SPRINT TO THE GRAVE

or is there a human right to sex without consequences?

and why don't incels have it?

Not reproducing is the harshest punishment you could give to someone who kills their own children, so it's a self solving problem imo. A non issue.

The parents don't own the child

Children can not own themselves until they are old enough to feed themselves. And the state doesn't own them.

Sterilise the parents if you wanna stop them reproducing

imagine what a shit being one has to be, having all those options to not become pregnant, to still get into a situation in which abortion is needed

Nobody owns them

>and why don't incels have it?
These are the right questions.

The social engineers organizing the global culture have the stated intention of making human beings passive entities without any form of agency or self-control

But we have a moral duty to decrease the probability of the death of other humans

and it's insulting to responsible women too, attributing a responsibility level to the whole sex below what we attribute to kids

@Pine Gang 🌲 I'm sorry to break this to you, but the love Christians feel for Jews is one-sided

I don't think abortion should be encouraged. And it is murder. But murdering your own family line is the definition of a self correcting problem.

If you try to apply responsibility to someone they throw their hands up and cry victim saying "You're judging me!"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/
https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2

There are just a few. There are more

That lack of responsibility is being encouraged by the culture

and those three cases in which pro abortion could be argued, those can be resolved with adoption

It's not your fault, it's that you're an oppressed minority, people aren't accepting you, etc

the silencing of roe is another topic

which might be better explained by an american

I believe we have a moral duty to promote social standards that limit suffering as well as maximise the long term pleasure for all sentient beings

I agree

Based bodhisattva motivation

I can do that by killing you in your sleep

I am a rule utilitarian

forcefeding kids holocaust porn is ok, but showing an actual abortion is to much xD

> I can do that by killing you in your sleep
@iippo
You would be promoting the opposite of that

It's not just about you do
It's also about what you promote

a world in which magnus hirschfeld cant be called a parasitic rat-people but unborn children can

What did he do?

Subverted German society and eroded moral standards

and lacking any logical consistency

> I am a rule utilitarian
@Big Ben
I am kinda into propertarianism so we're not far off

How? By(and I mean my german is not great so I might have misunderstood the wiki article) advocating for gay acceptance?

@Ed Yep. Are you vegan too? Or atleast an animal welfarist?

@Big Ben https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRXQQcGuKSE

Debating abstract right-wing ideas that have never existed is so 2012

Children don't deserve to have to grow up in this messed up world