Hi guys

Ik heb geen flauw idee waar je het over hebt😂

Ik ben een nederlander, niet zweeds of noors

ok amerimutt

canacuck?

britbonger?

jheez. Are you some slavic untermensch?

So essentially, I agree that anti-white bigotry is widespread and should be eradicated, but if in a hypothetical scenario most people in my country were not of european stock ethnically, but they did not hate me for my race, and shared my core values, etc, what would be the main problem?🤔 I am curious because I agree with the people here on most things I think

Anti-islam, respecting certain freedoms, against racial identity politics/tribalism, pro christianity etc

I completely agree @Nerthulas and I experienced that myself. But that was for large part due culture of the different ethnic peoples being different, and they didn't speak my language well, seemed to have different culture etc

But I have black friends for example who have a lot in common with me

@Nerthulas That's true. But what if we were to only have the non-ethnic europeans that share our values, do not hate us in any way, are assimilated(some of who I know personally), and these people ended up a majority(say due to birth rates, since I am against mass immigration), would that, if happened, still be bad?

Sorry😅

Pretty much all nationalist parties in my country are zionist😕

Tho Geert Wilders is quite good

He even spoke against the indigenous dutch becoming a minority at a GeenStijl interview

I don't know why they don't reciprocate

Seems really strange on their part

I heard they will go after the Japanese next

Sorry for noob level argumentation😅But I am interested what the rebuttal would be to this points of me. Let's imagine, just hypothetically, that a society in my country the Netherlands comes to being where we indigenous dutch are a minority, but the majority non-native Dutch population is assimilated have no hate to us in them, such people existing in real life and I know them. What would be the chief problems with that society? Is, as mentioned by some people, less trust and cohesion one?
Also, how would you the person reading this respond to me saying that there are non-native and native Dutch that I have in common with and would like to live with, from my own experience, and that whether someone has a similar culture and mindset to I is not heritage depender from my own experience?
Thanks to anyone rebutting/responding.

That makes sense especially with populations with the lower IQ average. I guess a counter might be:"What if the non-native dutch are from high IQ heritage like Japan and Korea? These people being capable of advanced civilisation?"

I think in south Africa, the black populus did despise us, and was not similar to us culturally etc at all

They spoke zulu etc

Whereas we spoke afrikaans and english

So in the long run, the descendants of the non-native dutch population with eventually have similar culture to ancestral lines? Or they will import on large scale those from ancestral line due to in-group preference?

And I agree, I don't like a lot of parts of culture of them

I like my dutch culture

definitely

@Deleted User I am not a boer exactly, but as dutch person, I am related to them, and I understand their language

Do non-whites that are culturally assimilated have their descendants eventually move towards culture of ancestors?

Are the cultural differences between groups actually genetic tho?

I have known non-native dutch people that assimilated well, and have more in common with me than some native dutch people. Culture seems to be more so like language

It comes from a particular ethnic group, and has genetic grounding, but can be adopted by other groups

Sure, but culture changes either way. Maybe you mean the trajectory of culture will be changed from basis? But cultural change can happen without immigration or non-natives too, via cultural appropiation, which will probably increase

That's the thing mainly. The people that have most in common with I can be from all backgrounds. A surinam dutch person born in same city as me will be someone I can likely relate more to than some native dutch person from another city

@Seer Salazar But what if hypothetically, those non-native Dutch people that do not assimilate are repatriated, and the state lets remain those non-native dutch that are assimilated, and they comprise 15% of populus. If these people become majority in 300 years, why would that be bad?🤔

That's a fair point. But my people are those who share similar mindset, ideas, language etc, they don't have to be indigenous dutch. My point is, my people can come from all walks of life. @stem

Yes most will probably care more about family. But other white Dutch will also side with their family if things go to shit in that hypothetical @Banjod

Yes my country is full imo

I am for closed borders

And deporting criminals with double passport

So eventually, in that multi-ethnic society where there is no anti-white racism and everyone has common culture, what bad things would eventually happen? Collapse is mentioned but how will that occur etc?

@stem I agree. Ideally, we should remain majority

@stem So basically, ethnocentrism is unovercomeable? And will result in other groups competing for resources?

And there will be less trust cohesion?

Wasn't America quite successful? It had different european groups that now have common white american identity

same with blacks

No I mean blacks from different tribes now have common black American identity etc @stem

Just like white americans

@stem There are some based surinamese ppl

Well, there is this one guy member of the FvD in holland

Just an example. I know some irl, and ppl from other backgrounds

@stem I would be more willing to associate with them than dutch leftists

native dutch*

Their genetics?

They are genetically indigenous

But are anti western

I don't want to get rid of them

Just highlighting that people can be similar and different irrespective of background

@iippo They are for muslim immigration for example

Which I oppose

And are anti-white

And some white conservatives do. Whereas some blacks don't. That's the crux of my argument: You can find similar people in terms of ideas from all life walks

But yes regression to mean is issue

@stem I get that point. But if they are not anti-white, share my culture and language, then problems I can't really see, and their morphological differences are then just like eye colour difference to me really

@Banjod That's a good point about risk. And about descendants part, so fundamentally in a multi-ethnic society culturally and linguistically homogeneous with no anti-white racism being promoted or prominet at all, there will eventually be different group interests conflicting?

@stem Because anti-whiteness seems to be learned..

If their parents are not anti-white..and the culture is not

then I don't how they will be

what if Jews are deported to israel in the society

@Banjod It's very hard to achieve practically, and I admit that. But If it was achieved, what would happen you think post-achievement?

The same as in Brazil?

Ges

yes*

So if all non-natives are high IQ, it would not be problematic? Or only in short run?

@stem I don't think we need anymore, and the ones anti-white can go imo. In the hypothetical, only them becoming majority happens organically

@stem You can't change looks or genetics I agree..But behaviourally, there are non-white dutch that "act like dutch people"

@Banjod In response to the racial diversity argument, I think racial diversity is means to an end instead of end itself. We place value on it because it resulted in different cuisines, cultures in general, languages etc, and we value that diversity emergent from it. If every race and ethnic group spoke the same language and had the same culture in general, as well as same IQ, we wouldn't really care about. But the thing is, diversity of culture, language etc does not seem to necessitate racial diversity. And while countries should have the right to close their borders imo, I don't think that Ultimately racial composition matters for maintaining cultural and language diveristy etc. Or is there another reason why racial diversity is valuable?

@Banjod That's true with average blacks probably. But if u had only minority whites and blacks in china that are assimilated, with same IQ, if they become majority populus, chinese civilisation could be maintained no?

In context of netherlands it's because there are minority members assimilated and with much in common with me, and dutch people that have not much in common: It seems to be not race based.
So while I don't support deporting dutch people that are anti-white, I don't see why deporting aforementioned minority members would be necessary, and why it would be bad if they became majority

@Banjod Thanks for answering questions btw. Just last question, what bad things could happen? You mentioned risk

no fap is gay

cooming all the way

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What is "small" and "big" government? Is it based on intervention with the public?

And taxation is one of those things? Because taxation is theft is this meme repeated often by libertarians

Libertarian socialism is a thing

The best policy is 100% taxation and equitable redistribution of wealth *fedora tipping intensifies*

Does what is happening currently to indigenous peoples of europe count as genocide?

Some say according to UN definition it is so

wow how come?

fair point

Some of them are sexist

imo

But I am a libcuck so yeah

(((tinder)))

Merry Christmas goede mensen!

It means people

@Banjod