the serf tax was set to their labour.. not their houses
Dab on 10 year olds
Don't be an organ donor
if you ask the average westerner what you think of kicking faygets off society
they will also react negatively
property isn't absolute, common good isn't absolute, its a balancing act, and there isn't a comprehensive, axiomatic system- people just go off of their gut instincts
does that make POZ a western value?
I known.
But still
Through might, you make them absolute.
you are just a communist
whats balancing act
it will balance itself out automatically
westerners believe in BOTH property and common good, even though they are ***absolutely contradictory***
You can dominate, and rule and decree this so, and Communists can rule and do the opposite, and actually mandate organ harvesting.
Collective ownership =collective responsibility
you can have property and as a side effect people work for common good
yes you're saying that the law is the law
whats the problem?
collective ownership is RETARDED
That's why you need to tip the scales.
yeah we have law, and this often *roughly* represents our values as a society
Is anyone here advocating for collective ownership?
collective ownership can work if done in a voluntary covenant where rights and obligations are carefully stipulated
yes
It's a balancing act because democracy is about pleasing everyone, or giving off the illusion of doing so.
Who?
that is allowed
because flat hierachy doesnt work and people need to manage their own property and take individual responsibility
some degree of collective ownership is present in western society
if you want to enter in such an arrangement go ahead
and has been for all time
the group is retarded
go ahead do so
we DO consider other people's property to be our own to some degree
we wil see which kind of ownership works best
we already have
huh no
we want it to be
@Nerthulas The commons require the sharing of responsibility private property requires individual responsibility
we now collectives doesnt work THERE ARE COLLECTIVES
