Message from @Jabba's Soapbox
Discord ID: 651210576672063498
they got the best trackrecord
and deep lore
Anyways, I'll catch up with the Dyer stream later (still streaming after 2.75 hours)... I want to see JF's review of the Vaush/Sargoy debate
This is The Kurgan's channel... meet your champion, hehehe
https://www.youtube.com/user/Marziano0/videos
looks like a)
dyer was on the dark stream
and b) accepted an invite to a debate with The Kurgan
She only posts a couple of times a week,
but could always use a little more encouragement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov6qiSQGBpA
cool 👍🏼
My bets are on orthodox and jay in every single debate hands down winner.
@Jabba's Soapbox The Vaush/Sargon debate was a spectacle, does V always pilpul that heavily?
@The Eternal Swede I've only seen Vaush once before and he was pretty much the same - maybe a bit more reasonable, but he's a closed mind for sure.
- but the aggression and interrupting were the same... his excuse at that time was that this was all new to him (presumably debating, or maybe he's a new convert to Marx, hehehe)
It seems like a very effective strategy, albeit very bad form
The moderators really shit that one up by letting him do that, I got tired after what..30 minutes of him talking over and interrupting Sargon constantly, then turning around and blaming Sargon for the conversation not getting anywhere
Not a big fan of Sargon's opinions, but at least he lets the other side speak
Seems sane
Kurgan claims he has an IQ of 155
<:big_brained:396156349676781569>
The debate would actually be rather boring... probably won't get beyond the definition stage
This Kurgan has a higher IQ
All religious debates are boring
I disagree that "religious training" is a pre-req for debating religion
from Dyer
Thats like saying I cant be anti flat earth unless i went to flat earth college
But then, Kurgan thinks anyone who rejects Roman Catholicism is a retard... while at the same time rejecting Vatican Two as heresy.
Yeah, Dyer makes a point of trying to bury any debate in advanced philosophy, then says he won because the other guy hasn't studied advanced philosophy to be able to respond to his points...
...it's a tactic alright, but not one that makes for good debate.
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The Kurgan vs Jay Dyer will be on The Killstream... date yet to be finalised.
the debate with the kurgan has already been set
yes
but the kurgan made this weird backtracking video that wasnt relaly backtracking
so the debate is still on
vox and the kurgan are proabbly going to score a technical win (in their eyes), because they are setting up the debate in a way where only they can win
they will only allow debate on a certain narrow topic, for 1 hour