Message from @Orrbit
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And by non-Islamic, I mean everything but the Qur'an and the hadith. Even traditional Islamic theology got trashed for being too Aristotelian. Ibn Ash'ari was the primary inspiration for ibn Taimiyya, who would later found Salafism.
The filioque wasn't in the original Greek version of the Credo. It was added when it was translated into Latin, possibly deriving from a tradition in the west of expressly and emphatically emphasizing the union of Father and Son as a safeguard against Arianism.
I'm aware, but it is a division in theology between east and west right?
From the time of Nicea until the 9th century, East and West regarded the difference purely of culture. In 810, the patriarch of Constantinople made it an issue for the first time.
my trad uni chaplain thinks it really just more semantics once you get past all the theological definitions and in terms of spiritual life etc we believe the same
It really is just a semantic split.
Photius of Constantinople, in 810, decided that the addition of the filioque constituted the creation of an alternate creed, and thus, a different religion. No one cared before then. Many a small local council (and a few big ones) had determined that it was just a cultural thing.
The Filiqoue is basically an excuse to be schismatic
The Eastern Churches in union with us don't have it either
The entire schism was basically temporal politics
Something that the EO still struggle with to this day
Daily Mass Squad-- Gang Gang
See: ukranian-russia-constantinople schism
Then Orthodox still have the choice between nation-orthodox
i cant wrap my head around it
some even have several national ones
Near my city there's a "free Serbian" orthodox monastery, which is different to the "Serbian" orthodox Church in the city
i dont get it at alll. #Catholic
I mean, should boomer parishes be considered Catholic..?
@Orrbit some part of me is wrong when I say I only acknowledge the Greek Orthodox as the Orthod Church.
Just in name
We have this young secret trad priest who's been put in a Parish in the middle of the city and he's doing an amazing job
I don't like it that there's only boomer parishes in my city
God Bless Him
No, just a terrible country
*generation
The countryside is even worse because it's very deprived of resources
That was my guess
Parishes here base off money lol
damn bishop backed and everything.
I go to the one near my house, but it's run by a guy who had control over the last bishop
FSSP?
Yes, it's a wealthy parish because the people around are wealthy
Er, I believe they're something else
Diocesans or something like that
I meant are there any FSSP parishes or something like that around the place
Hm, haven't really checked