Message from @Orrbit

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2019-04-25 18:43:51 UTC  

Self harm used to be a sign of demonic possession

2019-04-25 18:43:56 UTC  

Ask them that, while they are at it, when are they going to forbid opposition to incest and bestiality

2019-04-25 18:43:56 UTC  

It does bring a smile to my face that every time they try to debate me it ends with them screeching

2019-04-25 18:44:49 UTC  

@Crux Could be, but one should look for other signs, it could be a mental disorder

2019-04-25 18:45:38 UTC  

Also depends the level of self harm

2019-04-25 18:45:40 UTC  

And remember, when they start talking, say that <whatever they say> offends you, so they must not repeat it.

2019-04-25 18:45:42 UTC  

I have met many estranged catholics fallen into depression, self harm and suicidal tendencies

2019-04-25 18:46:06 UTC  

That could be influenced by a lot of aspects all the way to genetics

2019-04-25 18:46:12 UTC  

I've tried to bring them back to church but its difficult

2019-04-25 18:46:18 UTC  

Men and women manifest different

2019-04-25 18:46:25 UTC  

Men usually become antisocial, angry

2019-04-25 18:46:58 UTC  

Women get depressed and start cutting themselves and trying to kill themselves by ODing on painkillers/relaxants

2019-04-25 18:47:15 UTC  

Which in some part i think it's driven by ego

2019-04-25 18:47:59 UTC  

From my experience, the only people I've met that have those issues usually have inherited them from their family or are plainly racemixed

2019-04-25 18:48:29 UTC  

As in their family has some high-tier problems and that ended up reflected in them

2019-04-25 18:49:02 UTC  

As for that being demonic possession, hm, could be demonic influence but not possession, it does open the doors for that though

2019-04-26 00:49:06 UTC  

A lot of exorcists reckon generational spirits are a thing

2019-04-26 00:49:54 UTC  

I reckon those exist too

2019-04-26 00:50:04 UTC  

makes a lot of sense

2019-04-26 00:50:15 UTC  

That a demon would be assigned to an entire family

2019-04-26 00:50:31 UTC  

I believe some monks do generational cuts?

2019-04-26 00:55:30 UTC  

generational cuts?

2019-04-26 00:56:02 UTC  

like, for new families to avoid those demons from passing into the new family

2019-04-26 00:56:07 UTC  

ahh

2019-04-26 00:56:09 UTC  

I've only heard of it like once

2019-04-26 00:59:47 UTC  

Yeah I heard about it

2019-04-26 00:59:56 UTC  

Where demons or curse could be passed onto the next generation

2019-04-26 05:37:22 UTC  

Hm, I want to get something cleared

2019-04-26 05:37:35 UTC  

How long does one has to fast before receiving communion?

2019-04-26 05:38:17 UTC  

@MawLr 3 hours according to pre vatican 2

2019-04-26 05:38:27 UTC  

alright, cheers

2019-04-26 07:24:46 UTC  

its 1 hour under current canon law

2019-04-26 07:25:09 UTC  

the 3 hours came in in the 50s I think and before that it was from midnight

2019-04-26 10:31:49 UTC  

From midnight is the Trad approach.

2019-04-26 10:32:02 UTC  

Not sure where that comes into play for masses later in the day.

2019-04-26 10:32:44 UTC  

Always said to myself I'd pursue becoming an Exorcist if vocation turns out to be the way forward.

2019-04-26 10:48:28 UTC  

can you pursue it? or does the Bishop just have to ask you?

2019-04-26 11:15:02 UTC  

You can pursue it, but obviously ecclesiastical permissions need to be sought.

2019-04-26 11:16:29 UTC  

are you properly discerning diocesan priesthood, or priesthood at all, or just interested?

2019-04-26 11:17:43 UTC  

My hard cut-off for marriage is 35.