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but for others they need more of a gradual push
Like, they need to know they're wrong but they also need to know you love them
This guy is definitely the latter
How do I show him he's wrong tho
Showing him that there is nothign special about his condition, which is just psychosis, and is at best yet another mental illness in the endless list of mental illness that are corrected every day
And at worst and more likely sexual fetishism
He's wrong because he is a man
If he won't even accept basic realities, then he is a retard and I can't imagine what you can do. You can caress him with soft, meaningless words, but that will not do anything
On top of what Mozalbete has said, perhaps natural law? If he reckons he's trans then he surely understands there's an inherent difference between men and women. God clearly made men and women with different strengths/roles/outlooks etc for a reason, and he made each of us a particular sex for a reason.
At the same time though you gotta make it clear that he's always welcome and will always be forgiven, like not the kind of sappy, "accompaniment" and "being pastoral" which means basically be apathetic and let them destroy themselves, but if the person thinks you hate them they're not going to listen to you regardless of how logical you are
its not just about showing them that they're wrong, but showing them that they're broken and need redemption and they could be so much more
people who've invested their perceived identity or their life on a specific belief will naturally push back against what they see as a threat to that, regardless of how rational it is. Someone who met their wife and all their friends and built their career in some sort of political party is going to be a lot harder to convince since they have such an emotional investment in that idea beyond whats rationally true
its the same with this stuff because people think whatever delusion they're having be it trans or gay or whatever is their identity, so they need more than just being convinced intellectually
Don't use words like welcome, since people will hear what they want to hear. In their place use more precise words and expressions that can't imply acceptance of sin
I think what you can do
Is give examples of people who overcame their temptations and sins
And were encouraged and supported in doing so
Joseph Sciambra is a good example to google
he was a gay porn star/prostitute and now hes a catholic and doesn't even believe people are actually gay
real holy dude
It's pretty cool
Lol
Hey guys I have a question, so I’m about to convert to Catholicism but I have one reservation, what happens to my grand parents, they’re Holiness Protestants, they’ve been devoted all their lives to serve Christ, the father, and the Holy Ghost, and they’re some of the goodest people I’ve met and inspired me to believe in Christ, but I’m worried since they aren’t Catholics, so I want to know your guys opinions on what will happen to them?
You can try t o convert them, but you're better off asking your priest about it.
Alright
I mean I dont think their church counts as a fufulled day of obligation
extra ecclesiam nulla salus - but pray hard for them. God is the only one who can truly judge our conscience, their situation etc.
Thank you orbit I will cause I love them dearly and I know they trust in Christ
lmao
simple as
'ate Nestorians
'ate Arians
'ate heretics
'ate schismatic
luv me burnin's
luv me inquisitions
luv me church.
simple as.
Not a bigot, just don't like 'em.
@Mac tíre iarain remember, God is infinitely merciful, loving, and most of all, he is infinitely just. He knows your grandparents' true intentions.
Anybody who is in Hell, despite how harsh it may sound, does deserve to be there.
I've written a generic news-scoop for the latest Papal drama, any thoughts?
[Newsreader:]
This is a developing situation. His Holiness, Pope Francis I, has been accused by several high profile theologians of material heresy. [Screen cut, show panorama of St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City]. It was here where we first heard of this open letter. [Cut to inside of darkened room. Silhouetted figure speaks broken Italian, news-scroll reads "Unnamed Head of Catholic Church".]
[Subtitles narrated by (presumably) Hot Newsfemale:]
This letter that His Holiness has received goes against everything this papacy hates: judgement and calling out of public sinners. The authors probably hope to gain money or even earthly power for themselves in publishing it, and so I will refuse to answer it.
[Newsreader:]
We have reached out to the authors of the letter, but so far to no avail.
N. Reader, Generic News, Facebook.
Missing the declarations from rabbi Shekelsteinberg talking about how much he supports the poor, poor pope
That normally comes through with the later report.
@Mac tíre iarain bit late but, prots aren't damned to hell. Considering how strict Holiness is, I'd expect to see them in heaven. If they are good people and follow God's teachings as best they can, don't worry too much 😊
Alright thanks XD