Message from @GodFearingEnglishman

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2019-05-14 14:36:27 UTC  

A priest issues whatever penance he believes you are capable of.

2019-05-14 14:37:01 UTC  

In theory, a priest could tell you to go on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land, if he knew you had the means and will to do it.

2019-05-14 14:37:10 UTC  

Then that's insulting if he thinks I can handle a only single Hail Mary

2019-05-14 14:37:22 UTC  

Perhaps you should not be so prideful if you feel insulted by a priest's penance?

2019-05-14 14:38:04 UTC  

That aside, isn't your penance supposed to help you overcome your sin?

2019-05-14 14:38:11 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-14 14:39:06 UTC  

I don't think it's prideful to think that any baseline Catholic is capable of doing more penance than a single Hail Mary

2019-05-14 14:39:40 UTC  

Unless a priest is breaking canon law, you have every obligation to follow his issued penance.

2019-05-14 14:40:02 UTC  

Nothing is stopping you from doing more yourself, but you shouldn't feel insulted.

2019-05-14 14:40:41 UTC  

I'm not disputing the necessity of following the penance described

2019-05-14 14:41:11 UTC  

But I don't agree with you that it's based on capability alone

2019-05-14 14:42:09 UTC  

I'm only insulted if it's solely judged on capability

2019-05-14 14:42:42 UTC  

You shouldn't be insulted. Exercise humility.

2019-05-14 14:43:09 UTC  

If you don't receive any penance whatsoever, you ought to ask for some.

2019-05-14 14:43:29 UTC  

I mean, penance is a vital part of one's salvation.

2019-05-14 14:45:06 UTC  

If it's based on necessity though, then I see the need to exercise humility from a light penance. But I can still wonder when it's a particular priest giving light ones when the same sin earns me a rosary for a week from another

2019-05-14 14:46:11 UTC  

Well, believe it or not, priests aren't one collective mind.

2019-05-14 14:46:51 UTC  

What's the point in distinguishing degrees of sin when they are being treated the same? Shouldn't a more severe one elicit more penance just like it damages the relationship with God more severely?

2019-05-14 14:46:53 UTC  

No need to ask

2019-05-14 14:47:04 UTC  

It is neither here nor there what sin he committed.

2019-05-14 14:48:17 UTC  

That's not right.

2019-05-14 14:48:38 UTC  

Unless he is your designated confessor, he should not repeat sins mentioned in another confession.

2019-05-14 14:50:34 UTC  

Well, he can't exactly stop that. But he is still forbidden from mentioning such.

2019-05-14 14:50:42 UTC  

I don't mind since it's so common and it's almost routed out. Impurity with self

2019-05-14 14:50:50 UTC  

If he does, it's probably him needing confession.

2019-05-14 14:51:17 UTC  

Sins must be repeated from an earlier confession if a sin was knowingly omitted in it

2019-05-14 14:51:35 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-14 14:51:39 UTC  

As well as confessing you knowingly did not tell the priest a sin

2019-05-14 14:51:44 UTC  

Repeated by you, not your confessor.

2019-05-14 14:54:32 UTC  

They shouldn't.

2019-05-14 14:54:51 UTC  

That's not a valid excuse.

2019-05-14 14:59:30 UTC  

I can't talk to someone other than my primary confessor against my personal weaknesses? Guess my spiritual director's screwed.

2019-05-14 15:01:02 UTC  

Also isn't it written that God too eventually tries of our repeated offenses?

2019-05-14 15:01:47 UTC  

If you keep repeating a sin after a considerable amount of confessions you’re not really repenting

2019-05-14 15:02:08 UTC  

And the more an offense is repeated the more evidence that it's an entrenched problem that needs harsher measures to curb

2019-05-14 15:02:38 UTC  

And what Mawler said, your ability to be contrite erodes with each repitition

2019-05-14 15:07:19 UTC  

If you keep doing it, it would raise doubts regarding actual intentions

2019-05-14 15:07:31 UTC  

Remember that confession begins in one’s self

2019-05-14 15:07:40 UTC  

@MawLr not necessarily true. Look at St Mark Ji Tianxiang.

2019-05-14 15:07:52 UTC  

Habitual sin is a terrible cross to bear.

2019-05-14 15:08:24 UTC  

That’s alsp true