Hence I asked about the translation

No, this has nothing to do with ex cathedra or whatever

There isn't really any scandal and such, the translation is ok. It is just that it refers, very clearly to the perspective of death by crucifixion as something miserable, and the end of the one that was going to be the messiah ¨(without the resurrection of coursE)

I haven’t even seen it, my guess is misinterpretation just like every single time

We shouldn’t worry either way unless it’s a papal bull

Jesus' human life did end in failure tf

it was his divine nature which fulfilled the prophecies

which of us would want to be crucified

in the context of the speech, God seeing to the fruits of our labours or whatever has the same connotations

it wasnt Jesus the man who saved us, but Christ the God

+search not my will

smh

luke 22:42

**Luke 22:42 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<42> Saying: Father, if thou wilt, remove this chalice from me: but yet not my will, but thine be done. ```

Yeah

So far I’ve only heard Orthodox screeching about this

?

About the Pope’s comment, rather an an actual interpretation it’s been screeching

That being said, this is typical francis MO

rather than choosing his words carefully in a way least likely to cause scandal, he says something that's very technically true on its face but can easily be misread

Say it for what it is

He's a sneaky, flipping Jesuit.

Stop giving so much importance to some random speech that has nothing special about it

IT has been said, for many centuries, how there was huge disappointment when Christ was killed, but then came the resurrection

http://www.latinmassireland.com/

this website is considered "dangerous"

By who?

It dead ass 90 degrees Fahrenheit and its hailing rn and raining

google

Whacc

what's up with that? <:rubbetirub:550020519420755970>

oyy veyyy

admins aren't awake, time to dab on the orthos

Friendly reminder that if you decide to convert to Orthodoxy simply because you are displeased with the Pope and have actually no idea of dogmatic differences, you're taking a very important decision blindly

Whilst not enough to consider them heretics, they do profess certain errors that cannot go unchecked

@MawLr agreed

I have indeed defended our Orthodox brothers from some of you who called them heretics and I stand by my words, however until they are in full communion with Rome there's absolutely no basis to convert

yeeeeeeeeeeeees

Why did Jojo convert to orthodox :o