Message from @ChuuniMage

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2018-11-17 05:43:41 UTC  

Science is safe

2018-11-17 05:43:45 UTC  

He's good at science

2018-11-17 05:43:49 UTC  

and knows how it works

2018-11-17 05:43:55 UTC  

enough to see its shortcomings

2018-11-17 05:44:09 UTC  

Yeah, he is, but stuff like the resurrection are hard for him to grapple

2018-11-17 05:44:20 UTC  

That's pretty essential

2018-11-17 05:44:34 UTC  

implying the resurrection is easy for anyone to grapple with

2018-11-17 05:44:47 UTC  

If you don't believe the resurrection, then we need to become (((J3W5))) and restore the temple

2018-11-17 05:44:58 UTC  

I'm not saying I don't believe in the resurrection

2018-11-17 05:45:05 UTC  

I'm saying that it's not something that's trivial to understand

2018-11-17 05:45:14 UTC  

and he's trying to understand it

2018-11-17 05:45:21 UTC  

Oh, it's certainly impossible to grasp entirely

2018-11-17 05:45:42 UTC  

I think he approaches from modernism though and that's a stumbling block

2018-11-17 05:46:14 UTC  

I think a large part of that may be that he wants to be intelligible to the major audience of who's listening to him

2018-11-17 05:46:25 UTC  

because if he actually went full draditionalisd :DDD then he would be incomprehensible

2018-11-17 05:46:29 UTC  

to the majority

2018-11-17 05:46:44 UTC  

and he is actually appealing to the majority with what he's saying now and laying hooks to explore the more numinous and inexplicable parts of the faith

2018-11-17 05:47:15 UTC  

Yeah, but that has its downsides

2018-11-17 05:47:22 UTC  

early on he described himself as a radical traditionalist

2018-11-17 05:47:25 UTC  

in really early interviews

2018-11-17 05:47:30 UTC  

but he revised that description of himself

2018-11-17 05:47:55 UTC  

I know a guy who was interested in Christianity, but after watching JP, now he has this view that it's all just metaphors and archetypes

2018-11-17 05:48:04 UTC  

That's a shame

2018-11-17 05:48:08 UTC  

Yeah

2018-11-17 05:48:25 UTC  

Because Jordan Peterson does mention, especially in what I linked, that "just because the metaphors are true, doesn't mean that's all that's true about them"

2018-11-17 05:48:43 UTC  

like, it being a real event that happened would only confirm that it would also be archetypally true and be the pattern of all of human life

2018-11-17 05:48:47 UTC  

So we have to be careful with him. I don't want him to be a stumbling block for people who are on the fence

2018-11-17 05:48:52 UTC  

That's just how deep God runs in the cosmos

2018-11-17 05:49:16 UTC  

It's just JP wants to stick to evidence of God in science, since everyone reasonable (in theory) will agree on that

2018-11-17 05:49:36 UTC  

science gets to be right, and christians get to be right

2018-11-17 05:49:38 UTC  

everyone wins

2018-11-17 05:50:02 UTC  

He's ridiculously optimistic

2018-11-17 09:01:55 UTC  

Any of you dudes have experience with ritdye?

2018-11-17 09:42:15 UTC  

Good conversations again in the meme chat

Purgatory is what I cannot accept tbh
the view on it is same with me in 2 years ago.

I also noticed that St.Mark of Ephesus wrote good criticism against purgatory.

I also heard the catholic's view on Purgatory. But As well as 2 years ago and a year ago, My mind doesn't accept it.

2018-11-17 16:38:41 UTC  

I think he is in the process or is already Orthodox

Converting to the Orthodox