Message from @ChuuniMage
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Does he?
But he can't seem to get over the unfortunate modernist position
I think that he wants to believe
but he's too attached to modernism
He does want to believe
But he struggles w/ miracles
He actually *knows* that miracles and weird shit happen
but doesn't want to admit he thinks they happen
he's gestured towards the possibility that they do
Yeah, but he can't explain them with science so....
Science is safe
He's good at science
and knows how it works
enough to see its shortcomings
Yeah, he is, but stuff like the resurrection are hard for him to grapple
That's pretty essential
implying the resurrection is easy for anyone to grapple with
If you don't believe the resurrection, then we need to become (((J3W5))) and restore the temple
I'm not saying I don't believe in the resurrection
and he's trying to understand it
Oh, it's certainly impossible to grasp entirely
I think he approaches from modernism though and that's a stumbling block
I think a large part of that may be that he wants to be intelligible to the major audience of who's listening to him
because if he actually went full draditionalisd :DDD then he would be incomprehensible
to the majority
and he is actually appealing to the majority with what he's saying now and laying hooks to explore the more numinous and inexplicable parts of the faith
Yeah, but that has its downsides
early on he described himself as a radical traditionalist
in really early interviews
but he revised that description of himself
I know a guy who was interested in Christianity, but after watching JP, now he has this view that it's all just metaphors and archetypes
That's a shame
Yeah
Because Jordan Peterson does mention, especially in what I linked, that "just because the metaphors are true, doesn't mean that's all that's true about them"
like, it being a real event that happened would only confirm that it would also be archetypally true and be the pattern of all of human life
So we have to be careful with him. I don't want him to be a stumbling block for people who are on the fence
That's just how deep God runs in the cosmos
It's just JP wants to stick to evidence of God in science, since everyone reasonable (in theory) will agree on that
science gets to be right, and christians get to be right