>yes, just accept the corruption in our faith. It's the one true church. Don't worship God as you ought to think he should be worshipped, just follow our brainwashing and pay your indulgences

He should've done what St. Francis of Asisi did instead of going renegade and crying to German nobility

Granted Catholics changed their ways, but now they practice the Rosary in the face of Matthew 6:7

**Matthew 6:7 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<7> "When you are praying, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard because of their many words. ```

Matthew 6:7 NIV

**Matthew 6:7 - New International Version (NIV)**

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<7> And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. ```

All that means is don't mindlessly say your prayers but mindfully consider every word you utter in them

Right. Are some prayers scripted?

This is not a debate that will be solved anytime soon. Your entire life is your prayer/relationship to God. This cannot be shared of expressed or even understood by another mortal. Only by God

Sure because we repeat prayers that Holy people said or made themselves in Hope's of becoming like them

@888 Lmao it would be really difficult for you to get banned

But we do not ban "free form" prayers

Then it holds no meaning if they aren't genuine words of your own.

The Priest I went to see did a free form prayer. It was lovely.

Unless you start talking about the great joys of sodomy and being a travestite, for example

So don't pray the our father. Those were Jesus's words not yours so you can't say them

@Mozalbete ⳩ You think so? I just got permanently banned from 8chan/pol/ forever. Trust me, I get banned a lot.

Please don't tell me you found a Jesuit

8chan /pol/ are a bunch of degenerates who will probably ban anyone who doesnt comply to some nonsense

The Lord's prayer was an example prayer. You are free to adjust it any way you wish. If the words he says rings true to you, and are genuine, repeat them.

What about repeating the psalms and scriptures in prayer? Those are not your own words

They are...just saying I got 'skills'; mad skills...LMAO

Nu uh, you said no repeating or it's not genuine

I'm not sure what you mean American. I'm not insulting your faith, I'm just curious, but you have to hold your own argument. We can talk at a later time, brother.

888 what church do you go to? I go to a Church of Christ.

You said "Then it holds no meaning if they aren't genuine words of your own."

There are only 800 common use words in the English language. You are bound to repeat some things. You two shouldn't make this an issues between you because it only has meaning to God

Just pray with whatever is good and true lmao. If a prayer is good, and you don't enter auto mode, then fine.If you kind of enter auto mode, then it could be better, but the intentions are good. If you modify an existing prayer, as long as you don't change anything badly, then there is no problem, and so on

If they aren't genuine it holds no meaning. If you mean by heart the phrases they prayed, pray them.

So there is no problem with scripted prayer

Some risk becoming less genuine, but it's not as if you are being evil

Only if the people praying them don't mean them, but scripted prayer imo can be a dangerous path to just mindless babbling.

What @Mozalbete ⳩ said.

@Iakovos I stopped going to church when the Pastor was sleeping with the people he was counseling and the youth pastor was caught sleeping with the youth. Was enough for me.

F

OOOOOOOF

Lmao in the early Church people would be brought to a jury for that

And much lesser things

Didn't paul rebuke a man who was sleeping with another man's wife?

Repent and cease, and be forgiven.

I was talking with a high level satanist who said that most Churches are utterly infiltrated (I am sure he wasn't 'biased' or anything) but some of the things he said have stuck with me.