Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-07-20 09:32:49 UTC  

So as I said, I don't ask now that any of us concedes anything, but we must never let scandals affect us too much in our reaction to them

2019-07-20 09:33:56 UTC  

There's a Chesterton quote in here or two for a lot of these closing things, and I'm sure I'd pick a good one if I wasn't in a strange bed 800 miles from home right now

2019-07-20 09:35:17 UTC  

But pray for me, because those scandals both in your church and mine needle me relentessly and I always just come out more confused when I poke at them

2019-07-20 09:36:53 UTC  

We must accept that there will always be scandals over anything. Don't despair, because only in the Kingdom of God there will be true justice. Find an equilibrium that condemns them without letting doctrine be actually shaped by those scandals

2019-07-20 09:38:28 UTC  

Easier said than done, but one of these fights maybe my rib will finally break and I'll figure it out :*)

2019-07-20 09:39:11 UTC  

Eventually we become stronger

2019-07-20 09:45:15 UTC  

I think the goal for now is to just keep wrestling till the angel lets me know what's up, get in that stamina ..

2019-07-20 10:41:11 UTC  

@SUPER MALE VITALITY™ relevant to the things about baptism from before. I think you will like it, and will at least partially satisfy you regarding our position

http://newadvent.org/summa/4068.htm#article2
http://newadvent.org/summa/4068.htm#article9

2019-07-20 23:54:58 UTC  

Does Deuteronomy 23:2 conflict with God being all-merciful?

2019-07-20 23:54:59 UTC  

**Deuteronomy 23:2 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<2> Those born of an illicit union shall not be admitted to the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of their descendants shall be admitted to the assembly of the Lord. ```

2019-07-20 23:59:11 UTC  

Old covenant

2019-07-20 23:59:23 UTC  

Sins of the father

2019-07-20 23:59:32 UTC  

Yeah it conflicts because it no longer applies

2019-07-21 00:17:49 UTC  

Deuteronomy 23:1-15

2019-07-21 00:17:49 UTC  

**Deuteronomy 23:1-15 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

```Dust
Those Excluded from the Assembly / Uncleanness in the Camp / Miscellaneous Laws

<1> "No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord. <2> "No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord. <3> "No Ammonite or Moabite may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of them may enter the assembly of the Lord forever, <4> because they did not meet you with bread and with water on the way, when you came out of Egypt, and because they hired against you Balaam the son of Beor from Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse you. <5> But the Lord your God would not listen to Balaam; instead the Lord your God turned the curse into a blessing for you, because the Lord your God loved you. <6> You shall not seek their peace or their prosperity all your days forever. <7> "You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. You shall not abhor an Egyptian, because you were a sojourner in his land.```

2019-07-21 00:17:49 UTC  

```Dust
<8> Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the Lord. <9> "When you are encamped against your enemies, then you shall keep yourself from every evil thing. <10> "If any man among you becomes unclean because of a nocturnal emission, then he shall go outside the camp. He shall not come inside the camp, <11> but when evening comes, he shall bathe himself in water, and as the sun sets, he may come inside the camp. <12> "You shall have a place outside the camp, and you shall go out to it. <13> And you shall have a trowel with your tools, and when you sit down outside, you shall dig a hole with it and turn back and cover up your excrement. <14> Because the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp, to deliver you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy, so that he may not see anything indecent among you and turn away from you. <15> "You shall not give up to his master a slave who has escaped from his master to you. ```

2019-07-21 00:19:34 UTC  

<:thonk:559771775119130624>

2019-07-21 00:19:48 UTC  

Yeah that was specifically a civil law given to the tribe of Israel

2019-07-21 00:35:29 UTC  

I just like having the surrounding context lmao

2019-07-21 06:44:57 UTC  

Overall, when someone is righteous are blessed, which is what we can see constantly in the history of Israel: many rulers, who embrace degeneracy and idolatry are then followed by heirs who are righteous

2019-07-21 06:47:24 UTC  

Love the Lord, follow his precepts, and you will be blessed, with regards mainly to the eternal life, not the temporary one

2019-07-21 07:10:11 UTC  

Don't you just hate it when evil strikes you just where you can fall? The very seemingly dumb things can really cause great temptation

2019-07-21 14:01:19 UTC  

Corinthians 11:4

2019-07-21 17:54:07 UTC  

1 Corinthians 11:4

2019-07-21 17:54:07 UTC  

**1 Corinthians 11:4 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

```Dust


<4> Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, ```

2019-07-21 17:54:27 UTC  

2 Corinthians 11:4

2019-07-21 17:54:27 UTC  

**2 Corinthians 11:4 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

```Dust


<4> For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. ```

2019-07-21 19:39:05 UTC  

Days of small brain are over.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573460112614621204/602585360240869428/Screenshot_63.png

2019-07-21 20:11:11 UTC  

Go to church

2019-07-21 20:17:14 UTC  

Did you go to church @Deleted User ?

2019-07-21 20:17:22 UTC  

Uh.

2019-07-21 20:17:23 UTC  

No.

2019-07-21 20:17:27 UTC  

Go to church faggot

2019-07-21 20:17:32 UTC  

K dad.

2019-07-21 20:18:14 UTC  

I will get everyone to bully you towards the end of the week

2019-07-21 20:18:18 UTC  

Just so you go to church

2019-07-21 20:19:33 UTC  

I doubt I'm the only one. Why don't you hold everyone to this same standard and check up on them weekly?

2019-07-21 20:19:48 UTC  

They harassing me too bud its ok

2019-07-21 20:20:25 UTC  

Faustus, go to fecking Church

2019-07-21 20:31:07 UTC  

Its best done on an individual level

2019-07-21 20:33:36 UTC  

I went to Church today, did you?